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sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2018-01-16 09:59 pm

What the mothers did, I didn't know

I almost did not purchase the revised and expanded edition of E. Ann Kaplan's Women in Film Noir (1978/1998) despite the fact that at this point I have kind of a moral obligation to read it because I opened first to an essay about lesbianism in The Haunting (1963) that was full of Freud and then an essay about Double Indemnity (1944) that was also full of Freud and the prospect of having to fling around serious consideration of Oedipal drama and castration anxiety in order to continue writing about film noir made me think maybe I should just take up stamp collecting instead, but then I found Richard Dyer's "Postscript: Women and Queers in Film Noir" which begins "Gilda seems unusual among films noirs for having as its hero an ordinary guy who also has a homosexual relationship" and closes "I'm inclined to believe that most culture works to hold the line of sexual differentiation, but not film noir, or at any rate, not always definitely" and I decided the book was worth its used trade paperback price, because that I can get behind. Kaplan's "The Place of Women in Fritz Lang's The Blue Gardenia" also looks good; she reads it as genre-savvy meta on the normal roles of women in film noir, for which I will forgive some overstatement and some points of interpretation on which I flatly disagree. The book's appendix is extremely valuable: a list of "Films with a central involvement of women," broken down into "Films involving women writers (but not central female characters)," "Films involving women writers or producers, and central female characters," and "Films involving central female characters (but not women writers)." It's not complete—I've seen examples not listed in all three categories—but it means people have been paying attention to this question for at least the last twenty years and maybe the last forty and really the last thing the field needs is me writing about these movies, but I happen to enjoy it. Also I don't talk about Freud all the time, so there's that.
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[personal profile] justice_turtle 2018-01-17 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
Not talking about Freud is a valuable addition to almost any field. ^_^
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[personal profile] radiantfracture 2018-01-17 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
Agree! Though I have a lingering attachment to Lacan that I can't defend. (Not so much the cinematic gaze as the symbolic order.)

Whatever else has been written, you have something to contribute based on your own perspective / analysis.

Your points of disagreement, to begin with, maybe? That's sometimes the tiny wisp that begins a massive endeavour -- like the small spiral that begins the yellow brick road...
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[personal profile] radiantfracture 2018-02-01 07:03 am (UTC)(link)
These are all very valid reasons. In a world of disappointing graduate programs, that program sounds extra awful.

I'm sorry that a thing that should (in some alternate reality) have been about intellectual joy (though I mean has it ever actually been that? probably not) was a catastrophic trauma. That's an awful way to be wounded.

Just -- being a sort of shadow academic -- I don't have better language for saying "I value this work you're doing, and I think a larger audience of knowledgeable people would value it and engage in interesting discourse with you about it."

So, you know, that. But I don't actually mean that I think you should want academia itself. You've found a cool model in Patreon.

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