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sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2008-11-11 12:23 pm

Our young men shall see visions

If any question why we died,
Tell them, because our fathers lied.

—Rudyard Kipling, "Common Form" (1918)

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2008-11-11 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder if he included himself in the condemnation. I rather think he did.

Kipling is one of the great writers of WWI- not only for the poems but for stories like Mary Postgate, The Janeites, A Madonna of the Trenches, The Gardener.
Edited 2008-11-11 16:45 (UTC)

[identity profile] desperance.livejournal.com 2008-11-11 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder if he included himself in the condemnation. I rather think he did.

I'm absolutely sure he did; this is dated after his own son's death, and he was never a careless writer, he cannot but have meant that resonance.

Kipling is one of the great writers of WWI- not only for the poems but for stories like Mary Postgate, The Janeites, A Madonna of the Trenches, The Gardener.

Yes. And I would add "In the Interests of the Brethren", because it may be about the Masons but actually it's about betrayal, and universality, and war...

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2008-11-11 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. You can't have The Janeites without In The Interests of the Brethren. This conversation has just prompted me to reread them both.