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sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2025-09-16 10:59 pm
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When I heard tonight about Robert Redford, I did not think first of the immortal freeze-frame of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969) or the righteous paranoia of All the President's Men (1976) or even the perfectly anachronistic jazz of The Sting (1973) where I almost certainly first saw him, effortlessly beautiful even before he shines up from street-level short cons to the spectacular wire of the title grift. I thought of The Hot Rock (1972), a freewheelingly dumb-assed caper film of which I am deeply fond in no small part because of Redford. Specifically, his casting makes it look at first like the inevitable Hollywood misrepresentation of its 1970 Donald E. Westlake source novel, a cool jazz glow-up of the canonically, lankily nondescript Dortmunder whose heists always look completely reasonable on paper and in practice like a Rube Goldberg machine whose springs just sprang off. Only as the setbacks of the plot mount past aggravation into absurdity approaching Dada, of which the attempt to sneak into a precinct house via helicopter must rate highly even before the crew land on the wrong roof and the siege-minded lieutenant mistakes their break-in for the revolution, does the audience realize that this Dortmunder has the face of a screen idol and the flop sweat of a shlimazl, a man whose charisma is not an asset when it makes people think he knows what he's doing. "I've got no choice," he says doggedly of the eponymous diamond which he did at least once successfully steal, whence all their troubles began. "I'm not superstitious and I don't believe in jinxes, but that stone's jinxed me and it won't let go. I've been damn near bitten, shot at, peed on, and robbed, and worse is going to happen before it's done. So I'm taking my stand. I'm going all the way. Either I get it, or it gets me." When he acquires an incipient ulcer at the top of the second act, who's surprised? He glumly chews antacids as one of his meticulously premeditated schemes trips over its own shoelaces yet again. It may be the only time Redford played so far against his stardom, but he makes such a gorgeous loser with that tousle of coin-gold hair and an ever more disbelieving look in the matinée blue of his eyes, the Zeppo of his quartet of thieves who only looks like the normal one and no slouch in a stack of character actors from Moses Gunn and Zero Mostel through Lee Wallace and even a bit-part Christopher Guest, not to mention George Segal by whom he is characteristically almost run into a chain-link fence, trying to collect him from his latest stint upstate in a hot car with too many accessories. "Not that you're not the best, but a layman might wonder why you're all the time in jail." Harry Bellaver figured in so many noirs of the '40's and '50's, why should he not have retired to run a dive bar on Amsterdam Avenue patronized by exactly the kind of never-the-luck lowlifes he might once have played? The photography by Ed Brown goes on the list of great snapshots of New York, the screenplay by William Goldman is motor-mouthed quotable, the score by Quincy Jones never sounds cooler than when the characters it accompanies are failing their wisdom checks at land speed. Watching it as part of a Peter Yates crime trilogy between Bullitt (1968) and The Friends of Eddie Coyle (1973) may induce whiplash. It may not be major Redford, but it is beloved Redford of mine, and worthwhile weirdness to watch in his memory. This stand brought to you by my jinxed backers at Patreon.
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[personal profile] gwynnega 2025-09-17 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
I've never seen this one, and I love 1970s heists-gone-wrong movies! (All the President's Men is my favorite Redford film, but Three Days of the Condor is a very close second.)
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[personal profile] nineweaving 2025-09-17 06:28 am (UTC)(link)
...he makes such a gorgeous loser with that tousle of coin-gold hair and an ever more disbelieving look in the matinée blue of his eyes, the Zeppo of his quartet of thieves.

As ever, you're a joy to read.

Nine
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[personal profile] selkie 2025-09-17 08:23 am (UTC)(link)
Well, this bit’s not broken. I just checked. (I’m between Sneakers and Quiz Show, myself, although in the case of the latter Redford just happens to be there between the nebbishkeyt guy and the Harvard macher.)
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[personal profile] mrissa 2025-09-17 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, those are all legit reasons to forget Redford (and Mary McDonnell and Ben Kingsley and James Earl Jones and...), but he's still great in it.
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[personal profile] mrissa 2025-09-17 03:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Uff da, cruel fate.
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[personal profile] lauradi7dw 2025-09-17 10:50 am (UTC)(link)
I had also forgotten that RR was in Sneakers until (separately) Linda Holmes and Bob Mondello brought it up on NPR. Sneakers was one of several Strathairn/McDonnell things, to the extent that I wondered if they had the same agent.
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[personal profile] gullyfoyle 2025-09-18 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
I'd forgotten that McDonnell had been in some of Sayles' movies. Must re-watch Matewan. Have long been a big fan of Strathairn and Sayles.
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[personal profile] gullyfoyle 2025-09-18 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
I'm glad you mentioned A Little Prayer. I saw a poster for it -- and it caught my eye only because Strathairn was on it -- at the nearby multiplex a couple weeks ago when I went to see Nobody 2, which is not as great as the very great Nobody but still delivers the "John Wick on laughing gas" goods. I looked up A Little Prayer and put it on my keep-an-eye-out list. It's long gone from the multiplex -- it probably showed there only since it's a somewhat local production, i.e. made and set in N.C. -- but it is still showing at one of the area art houses. I'm going to try for it this weekend, although the showtimes aren't great for me.
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2025-09-17 11:15 am (UTC)(link)
I've never heard of this movie, and it sounds awesome.

the attempt to sneak into a precinct house via helicopter must rate highly even before the crew land on the wrong roof and the siege-minded lieutenant mistakes their break-in for the revolution --LOLLLL, great. Yeah, those Rube Goldberg springs are well sprung.

And it's visible on Internet archive? Great! Thank you for sharing.
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[personal profile] moon_custafer 2025-09-18 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
in your average heist movie there's a fifty-fifty chance of it going wrong and this movie does its singlehanded best to make up the difference

Not a heist movie, exactly, but years ago I read a translation of Mandragora aka The Sex Comedy Written By Niccolo Machiavelli, and one of the ways it *doesn’t* hold up to modern standards of farcing is that the entire crazy plot to get the lady into bed with the full approval of her cuckolded husband? Works perfectly on the first go, and nobody has to run around slamming doors and improvising Plans B, C, and D.
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[personal profile] princessofgeeks 2025-09-17 12:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the reminder. I need to rewatch.

I loved Redford so much. Butch and Sundance were formative for me and I went on from there. I still haven't seen all his movies! What a fun project.
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[personal profile] rosefox 2025-09-19 10:22 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a Westlake fan and a Redford fan and have somehow never watched this. Putting it on my list.
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[personal profile] rosefox 2025-09-20 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
It's always a good day to rewatch Sneakers. One of my all-time faves.
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[personal profile] alexxkay 2025-09-21 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
Kestrell and I watched this today, and quite enjoyed it. Definitely the best Dorrmunder adaptation so far.

It was kinda weird to see the still-being-constructed Twin Towers, especially from the POV of an aircraft being flown by a self-taught pilot...
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[personal profile] alexxkay 2025-09-21 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
The only other one I've actually seen was Bank Shot. It wasn't bad, but it turned the dial up on the silliness considerably higher than the books.
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2025-09-21 07:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I am watching it this afternoon, and it is **hilarious**. Just had the scene at the lake where the guy keeps on showing him increasingly big explosives. "Uh, well, it's kind of European and I learned it while I was at the Sorbonne... I picked this up at Berkeley." "You studied a lot, I guess." "I love school."

That and the family interactions. I loved the George Segal character and his mom, listening to the speedway record, loved the RR character with his sister and her baby.

... okay. Back to the film...
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2025-10-08 02:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, and they're all so likable? I was thinking just this morning how there's precious little toxic masculinity in the air. They're all affectionate, enthusiastic--more men like these guys, please! (And the dry humor of the Doctor, and the trickster-ness of the Zero Mostel character--just priceless!)