sovay: (Lord Peter Wimsey)
sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2007-08-09 10:39 pm

Now I'm here, now I'm gone

With the help of [livejournal.com profile] ericmvan's living room (and television, which must be larger than some movie screens), the miniature film festival in honor of Bergman and Antonioni actually came off last night. [livejournal.com profile] gaudior, [livejournal.com profile] weirdquark, [livejournal.com profile] nineweaving, [livejournal.com profile] sharhaun, and [livejournal.com profile] captainbutler all showed up, and in despite of home construction, lab schedules, and circadian rhythms, we managed to watch both L'avventura (1960) and The Seventh Seal (1957). It was fantastic. I had never seen anything by Antonioni, so I had no idea what to expect from L'avventura—its opening scenes and the way its first half played out reminded me of Hitchcock, but at the point where in a Hitchcock film the tension would have pulled to the point of unbearability and the pieces begun to drop inexorably into place, in L'avventura the tension dissipates and the story keeps going. There is no solution, because what we are watching is not a mystery. There is no closing scene that we can feel coming up, because nothing ever resolves. Lives are untidy, full of loose ends, inconvenient desires, half-made decisions, all the words that people either say too easily or cannot say at all. About halfway through, [livejournal.com profile] gaudior commented, "So this movie is about how Italian gender roles are fucked." Which everyone is; men no less than women. And the only way out may be to disappear. The Seventh Seal I hadn't seen since 1999, when I first watched it for a freshman seminar at Brandeis, but I love so many things about the film, I will content myself with simply saying that there is a reason it was my favorite movie for about seven years.* The Criterion DVD wins no points with me, however: its translation was actually less comprehensive and less accurate than the original English subtitles. (So whose edition do I wait for now . . . ?) Next week we're planning on Blow-Up and Persona (1966), and I have no idea what to expect from those, either: but I expect to like what I see.

This next bit is much less artistic. Earlier this week I discovered the existence of a storytelling game based on the tall tales of Baron Munchausen, and intrigued by the examples given of premise and challenge—"Grand Poobah, please tell our assemblage about the time you singlehandedly defeated the entire Turkish army using only a plate of cheese and a corkscrew!"; "But, my dear Grand Poobah, is it not true that you have a horrible allergy to cork?"—I mentioned [livejournal.com profile] fleurdelis28 that I really wanted to know how the hypothetical player got out of that one. "Make something up!" she not unreasonably responded. So . . .

The corkscrew had never been used, naturally. I commissioned it from Gustav Fabergé himself with the solemn oath that never would a creation as delicate and intricate as his be used for any purpose so common, cheap, and coarse as the drawing of corks—a vow to which I kept religiously, even when tempted with that rarest of vintages, the Château Invisible 1782, by Her unacknowledged Highness Alexia of Trebizond.

. . . and now I kind of want to know what happens next. I wonder if this counts as fanfiction.

*It may have been displaced by A Canterbury Tale. Whatever that tells you about me.

[identity profile] setsuled.livejournal.com 2007-08-10 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
in L'avventura the tension dissipates and the story keeps going. There is no solution, because what we are watching is not a mystery.

That sounds very cool. Sort of reminds me of Picnic at Hanging Rock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picnic_at_Hanging_Rock_%28film%29)--it's something I loved about Picnic at Hanging Rock. I'lll have to see L'avventura.

It may have been displaced by A Canterbury Tale. Whatever that tells you about me.

I've decided it means you have a glue fetish.

The Criterion DVD wins no points with me, however: its translation was actually less comprehensive and less accurate than the original English subtitles.

Ack, that really sucks.

So whose edition do I wait for now . . . ?

When Criterion does a new edition of a foreign film, they often times improve the subtitles. That's one of the reasons I've been itching to get the new Criterion edition of Seven Samurai, even though my old copy is also Criterion. I actually really don't like the way some of the lines are translated in the old edition, especially some of the last lines.

. . . and now I kind of want to know what happens next. I wonder if this counts as fanfiction.

But, my dear Grand Poobah, didn't Alexia of Tresbizond believe she was Alexander the Great? How did you gain entrance to the tower whence her family long ago locked her away?

[identity profile] setsuled.livejournal.com 2007-08-10 08:47 am (UTC)(link)
The Seventh Seal was one of their earliest releases in 1998, so I can hope.

Yes, especially since there's been a changing of the guard at Criterion and Ingmar Bergman's recent death may compel them to release new editions of his films.

to write in the purest Greek I could muster

Heh, I've tapped a vein.

I might make some fatal historical error and find my cover, as it were, blown.

Hehehe.

My goodness, Grand Poobah! All this only days before you routed the Turkish army? Was Her unacknowledged Highness somehow a conduit for that now famous weapon, the plate of cheese? Was it the product of a perverted yet curiously keen imitation of Alexander's tactical genius? And did you truly make love to her under such circumstance?

[identity profile] shewhomust.livejournal.com 2007-08-10 09:52 am (UTC)(link)
Second the adoration of Picnic at Hanging Rock.

nice

[identity profile] duckhalladay.livejournal.com 2007-08-10 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
So how have things been for you? I'm doing pretty well at this summer camp! I really love working here. I would still love to give you a call if you wanna give me your cell number. If you don't want to post it on here you can email it to darrickducky@yahoo.com! Anyway the kids here are great and so are are the staff memebers. One little kid really likes to ask me about birds and insects. It's so cool!

[identity profile] caprine.livejournal.com 2007-08-10 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
The Baron Munchausen game kicks ass. We did it as a panel event at a science fiction convention once. It was brilliant.

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2007-08-10 11:26 am (UTC)(link)
A Canterbury Tale. Yes, yes, yes, yes, YES!

There's no film I love more.

[identity profile] schreibergasse.livejournal.com 2007-08-10 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm actually more interested in the corkscrew, which I'm now imagining as some sort of spark-produced insanity, made from glass and gold.

But the plate of cheese was, if I recall the incident correctly, given to you by the Isaurian goatherd.

[identity profile] cucumberseed.livejournal.com 2007-08-11 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
And I'll never forgive you that incident, for still I have s warehouse full of naught but rats and threshing flails that near ruined me.

[identity profile] xterminal.livejournal.com 2007-08-15 12:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Next week we're planning on Blow-Up and Persona (1966), and I have no idea what to expect from those, either: but I expect to like what I see.

David Bordwell weighed in on the Great Bergman Debate yesterday, and when I read this bit, I thought of this entry (note that this is in the section where he's talking about how he really doesn't get all the Bergman hype, too):

"Persona," I admit, was a punch in the face. Seeing it in its New York opening, I felt that all of modern cinema was condensed into a mere eighty minutes. But no Bergman film afterward measured up to that for me...

I'll buy that with a pound of cole slaw.