sovay: (Lord Peter Wimsey)
sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2021-05-18 06:51 am

The shapes we take don't fit the games you play

"Peter had succeeded in getting his pipe to draw, and, with both hands in his trouser-pockets, was observing the actors in the drama with an air of pleased detachment."
—Dorothy L. Sayers, Busman's Honeymoon (1937)



"Well, now you have me. It's that thing called charm. Without it, there is a not particularly personable, slightly skinny gent in an old loose tweed jacket and trousers with a patch on the seat and tortoise-rimmed glasses, pulling on a blunt pipe. With it, there is Leslie Howard."
—Ruth Rankin, "Leslie Howard – Perennial Charmer" (1936)



I still can't believe Busman's Honeymoon was filmed in the UK in 1940 when Leslie Howard was still alive and didn't star him. Every now and then I consider subjecting myself to it because I imagine Robert Newton was an ideal Frank Crutchley and then I remember everything else I have ever read or heard about it and I just re-read the novel.
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[personal profile] oracne 2021-05-18 11:44 am (UTC)(link)
I am always disappointed by SOMETHING in Sayers adaptations. Several somethings. Even if they did their best.
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[personal profile] ethelmay 2021-05-19 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
I got to see Edward Petherbridge (and his wife) in the 1988 stage production of Busman's Honeymoon at the Lyric Theatre in Hammersmith, which was really very good.
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[personal profile] oracne 2021-05-19 10:53 am (UTC)(link)
The Petherbridge/Walter needed to be much, much longer.
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2021-05-18 11:57 am (UTC)(link)
Those two quotes (and the photos) make your case perfectly.
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[personal profile] coraline 2021-05-18 12:12 pm (UTC)(link)
…wait busman’s honeymoon was filmed??
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[personal profile] princessofgeeks 2021-05-18 12:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I did not know it had ever been made into a movie! And indeed Leslie Howard would have been perfect.
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[personal profile] tree_and_leaf 2021-05-18 12:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Goodness, he'd have been utterly perfect.
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[personal profile] heavenscalyx 2021-05-18 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I continue ripshit that a) the movie was reportedly terrible and I've heard Sayers hated it and b) they apparently didn't release the rights so that Petherbridge and Walter could have made it during the 1980s adaptation. Not that the scripts for the Petherbridge/Walter adaptations were any good whatsofuckingever (I nearly threw the DVD for Gaudy Night across the room), but it would've been nice to have the visuals.

Why do we continue to get ENDLESS MISS MARPLE ADAPTATIONS and not a single modern Wimsey?????
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[personal profile] swan_tower 2021-05-18 06:44 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a rare instance where I'm irritated by how many versions we get of a female character, and vanishingly few of a male one.
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[personal profile] swan_tower 2021-05-18 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
After posting, I was wondering who I would cast, and the answer is that I'm not at all sure. I'm curious if you have any non-posthumous preferences, though.
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[personal profile] heavenscalyx 2021-05-19 02:18 pm (UTC)(link)
If they wanted star power for Wimsey, I think Michael Sheen, as nonpointy as he is but as chameleonic as he can be, would be brilliant. Tennant could probably also pull it off -- he's got the lean nervous energy and the odd face. Neither is particular rabbity, but could probably manage to look it. (Oh, lord the Good Omens fandom would go MAD if one was cast as Wimsey and the other as Bunter though.)

I didn't know about Petherbridge's blog/memoirs, but I'm grateful he and Walter stepped up to the plate and tried.
Edited 2021-05-19 14:33 (UTC)
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[personal profile] oracne 2021-05-19 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
That is DELIGHTFUL.
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[personal profile] nineweaving 2021-05-19 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
He might be considered by some castaways to be a luxury item in himself.

Indeed.

Petherbridge is a lovely actor. And smart!

Nine
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[personal profile] movingfinger 2021-05-18 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder whether/when deepfake technology will have progressed to the point where we can cast old movies with our preferred choices?
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[personal profile] selkie 2021-05-18 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I absolutely love that this rabbit hole happened and I have had too much work today, after nine-ish days away from the office, to really have said so. But he would have made a PERFECT Peter Wimsey. (You, yourself, would also make a good one.)
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[personal profile] gwynnega 2021-05-18 07:27 pm (UTC)(link)
As I recall, Robert Montgomery was not a good Peter Wimsey, to put it mildly. Leslie Howard would have been perfect.
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[personal profile] skygiants 2021-05-19 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
This is apropos of nothing except Wimsey discussion, but yesterday while talking about Wimsey we realized that according to one very odd short story Peter starts faking his death in 1927 and continues to fake it for the next two years, and given that Strong Poison takes place in 1929 Peter should by all rights still be faking his death at that time, and I now really want someone to do the version of Strong Poison where everything is the same except --

(As far as contemporary casting goes, I think Paul Bettany might do all right at it. Like he's slightly too standard-hot but he could pull it off.)
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[personal profile] skygiants 2021-05-19 11:14 am (UTC)(link)
The timeline absolutely doesn't, but I truly believe "I want to marry you, if you can put up with me and all that" / "That makes forty-seven, but I admit I've never been proposed to by a dead man before; that at least has the air of novelty" has legs and if Dorothy had the courage of her convictions she could have run with it! (No offense to Strong Poison as it is, already in and of itself a delightful book of course.)
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[personal profile] thatyourefuse 2021-05-19 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought of some of your reviews when I saw Paul Bettany's human disguise in the 70s episode of WandaVision. He was really pulling off the glasses and floppy hair in a very specific way.
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[personal profile] starlady 2021-05-19 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I think James D'Arcy might come closest of current actors I can think of--he could definitely get within shouting distance, particularly for the earlier cases. It's kind of wild to know that he's currently the same age as Peter in Gaudy Night.