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sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2017-01-01 11:58 pm

There's a new life opening wide

Rabbit, rabbit! My poem "Andromache" has been accepted by Not One of Us. It is my first-written poem and my first acceptance of this year; it was inspired by a remark of [personal profile] kore's and its title leans more toward the Amazon who fought Herakles than the wife of Hektor.

[livejournal.com profile] derspatchel and I did not ring in the new year in the literal sense, but we watched [livejournal.com profile] schreibergasse and [livejournal.com profile] lauradi7 and six other members of a band of change ringers at Church of the Advent do so. It was my first exposure to change ringing outside of Dorothy L. Sayers' The Nine Tailors (1934) and I don't seem able to write about it without an access of Tiny Wittgenstein; it registered to me as an actively interesting art form—I couldn't have reproduced any of the patterns I heard, but I could track in the moment some of the ways the bells moved through them, which differs sufficiently from most of my experiences with music that it reminded me much more of observing a dance—and exactly the sort of complexly coordinated group activity that I should not let myself get drawn into trying to learn because the chances of my being able to achieve the levels of minimal competence that would allow me not to burden the people around me are slender to laughable and I don't like doing things badly when I know they can be done well. It was an excellent thing to be present for, however, and the bells at Church of the Advent have great overtones. We got home at a reasonable hour and I stayed up far too late finishing Mike Mignola and Christopher Golden's Baltimore, or, The Steadfast Tin Soldier and the Vampire (2007), courtesy of [livejournal.com profile] teenybuffalo, and writing an utterly unrelated poem.

Today was the traditional New Year's ham and fondue at my parents' house, followed by the somewhat less traditional deconstruction of the tree and concomitant sweeping of an apparently infinite amount of fir needles off the living room floor. Rob came out as soon as he had finished work. I shared with Schreiber' the Twitter thread of "1 like = 1 borderline insane member of the clergy" that Rob had sent me last night (I learned everything I know about the Reverend Harold Davidson from a song by Dave Goulder!) and developed an unexpected eye-watering headache, which is why I am going to try to head for bed as soon as I have stopped catching up on comments.

I am well aware that if it follows the course set by the last months of 2016, 2017 will contain many things I will not look back on fondly, except for how the people I care about fought and survived them. As a first day, though, this was all right.
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[personal profile] moon_custafer 2017-01-03 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
I read The Nine Tailors at quite a young age, so I had trouble making head or tail of the change-ringing parts of the story. When I reread it years later, I could sort of see what was going on, but since what was shown on the page was the pricking, rather than the experience of listening to the bells in real time, I thought of it in terms of braiding, or a chart for a cabled knitting pattern.

[identity profile] desperance.livejournal.com 2017-01-02 06:38 am (UTC)(link)
Yup. The bells totally dance together, in that formal country- or contra-dance sense. If the chance arises, learn handbells. (Also, I once had a deeply stoned but deeply intense conversation with my best friend about the influence of change-ringing on the English landscape.)
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[personal profile] spatch 2017-01-02 08:27 am (UTC)(link)
When I had my go at the bellrope I lost the rhythm and the bell stopped ringing entirely because I was [probably making a classic newbie mistake of] subconsciously trying to time my pull with the sound, but I was horribly off since the bell didn't ring as soon as I'd pulled on the rope. Once the helpful man from Quebec had given me a pointer, the exact phrasing of which I have conveniently forgotten (something about feeling it near the top of the upswing) I began to feel the feedback from the rope and that was a neat little breakthrough, there.

[identity profile] lauradi7.livejournal.com 2017-01-02 03:07 pm (UTC)(link)
What you were doing is called chiming. Actually full-circle ringing (with the arc from nearly mouth up to nearly mouth up) has a much more significant time lag between pull and sound. This varies from bell to bell (or maybe more accurately, wheel to wheel. Wheel sizes are mostly proportional to bell sizes, and the rope is attached to the wheel), so it's one of the difficult parts of learning to ring in the correct place.

[identity profile] schreibergasse.livejournal.com 2017-01-02 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
OTOH, chiming is hard.
Also, I at least spend a great deal of time, when ringing, getting out of tempo and then getting myself back in.

[identity profile] lauradi7.livejournal.com 2017-01-02 03:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I am sad that you feel after one short try that it would be too hard. People vary wildly in terms of how long it takes to learn the physical skill, but you already understand that rhythm is crucial, and you like the sound, so you're ahead of the game compared to some people. It's not a physical skill like anything most people have experienced, so everyone starts from scratch. The people in a band in a teaching tower all remember the struggles involved, and expect that. It's a musical instrument of a sort, but it doesn't do to imagine the possible irritation of members of a string quartet rehearsal if someone who has never played a violin shows up, expecting to be taught. There are towers in the world (like St Paul's, London) that are only open to invited high-end ringers, but most local towers expect to spend months training newbies.
Knowing oneself is always useful, though. I will say that after 36 years, I'm still not ringing up to my hoped-for level of precision, but I'm working on it... Setting yourself up for frustration might not be a good thing, but we'd love to have you try, if you want.

If you like overtones, you should come to Old North. Modern (since late Victorian times?) change ringing bells have had the overtones tuned by turning on a lathe (I'm over-simplifying). Many can be very nice, but some of the randomness is gone. The Old North bells (cast by Abel Rudhall in Gloucester England in 1744) are the old style, and in his particular case, he was extraordinarily good at getting a wonderful sound by careful shaping of the bell as it was cast. There are some old style bells that sound yucky, but I think (not entirely objectively) that the bells at ON are the nicest in the world (having admittedly only heard bells at fewer than two hundred towers).

[identity profile] lauradi7.livejournal.com 2017-01-02 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I can hear different hums and have a vague mental picture of sine waves of different lengths, but I can't give you a decent tuning explanation, so here is this:
http://www.hibberts.co.uk/tuning.htm
I don't know if this will help
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grqNikjb9h8

The bell at Harvard's chapel is a Taylor bell. Modern tuning, really nice. Paul Revere cast bells, tuned in the old way. They were possibly inspired by Rudhall's bells, but are more like OK than glorious. The one that is reputed to sound the best is at King's Chapel on Tremont Street.

Does 12:30 PM count as early morning? You could come near the end of practice or service ringing (Saturday or Sunday, respectively). The hum from all of those notes bouncing around together as the bells are rung down in peal is the most distinctive. Check with someone first - sometimes it wouldn't be convenient, but usually it would be.

I live just uphill from Hastings Park, which is where the LHS cross-country runners seem to gather. I enjoy seeing them jog past in little clumps on their practice runs.

[identity profile] heliopausa.livejournal.com 2017-01-02 06:52 am (UTC)(link)
"a very country dance indeed". (as Lucy said, watching the Trees move in and out in complicated patterns.)

I'm glad the year's begun well. :)

[identity profile] shewhomust.livejournal.com 2017-01-02 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for those members of the clergy. I learned about the vicar of Stiffkey from my father (including how to pronounce it), but I didn't know Tow Law also had an insane vicar. We drove through Tow Law today, on our way to lunch.

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[personal profile] gwynnega 2017-01-02 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Congratulations on your first poetry sale of the year!
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[personal profile] landofnowhere 2017-01-03 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
Your post brought back some very fond memories to me.

When I was spending a year studying in the UK, I signed up for the change ringing guild out of sheer curiosity. I'm not certain I would have done it if I'd realized how long it would take to learn. But I liked the physicality , rhythm, and sound of the bells, and the ringers were super friendly and supportive of a clueless American who wanted to learn. I am a clumsy, slow, but stubborn learner when it comes to anything physical, so by the end of nine months I could reliably and smoothly control a bell, had acquired a good sense of rhythm, and could do very basic ringing with others.

Then I moved to a place where the nearest ring of bells was 2 hours away by train, and though I went there once, it wasn't worth the time to go regularly. Now I'm back in an area with bells, but I've been too timid to pick it up again. Perhaps I should...
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[personal profile] landofnowhere 2017-01-03 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
also Elizabeth Wein wrote a short story "The Bellcaster's Apprentice" about change ringing bells and a fairy queen. You might like it, though it may be hard to find. (I think I saw the collection containing it in a used bookstore, and sat diw to read then and there without buying the whole collection.)

E Wein

[identity profile] lauradi7.livejournal.com 2017-01-03 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
>>At the time I suspect I somewhat overlooked it because it contained no Medraut, Goewin, or Lleu<<

I hope that has changed. If it means that you have never read"Code Name Verity" or especially "Rose under Fire," I can get copies to you.

[identity profile] lauradi7.livejournal.com 2017-01-03 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you in North America? You can find the contact information for your local tower here:
http://nagcr.org/afftower.html

Local is a very loose term in North America.
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[personal profile] landofnowhere 2017-01-03 05:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm in the Boston area, actually, so I should get in contact with you people! Who is the best contact person? (You can LJ-message me.)

Local is a very loose term in North America.

I understand that, from spending a stretch of time in the middle of New Jersey :-) I'm an academic with a temporary position, so I should take advantage of being near bells before I move who-knows-where..

[identity profile] schreibergasse.livejournal.com 2017-01-04 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
We would love to see you! Anyone on here is a good contact (Well, don't email John, simply because he has a newborn, but other than that...) Or just show up on Brimmer Street tomorrow at 6:55ish.

And hey, you might find your next posting in DC, or Kalamazoo, or somewhere.
Edited 2017-01-04 01:53 (UTC)

[identity profile] wordsofastory.livejournal.com 2017-01-08 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Congratulations on the poem! It deserves a wider audience.