You can call out me mother, me sister and me brother, but for Christ's sake don’t call me

[sovay]

Right. End of an era. After a vain month of waiting for LJ-support to get back to me about the problems with the now-unsupported style Refried Paper, I have changed my livejournal style for the first time since I started this thing at the very end of 2004. I wasted about two hours tonight trying to make the new one resemble my dear dead style as much as possible in color, font, and layout, but I didn't have the coding proficiency to make it look anything but awkward. So, scaling back, does anyone have suggestions on the following tweaks: wider margins, no underlining of links, and current music listed directly under post title? The new style appears to be called "Army Attire." It may well change again.

Comments

[rosefox]

Unfortunately ljstyles and layout_lounge are both defunct. But these posts might be useful:

http://s2howto.livejournal.com/48865.html
http://astolat.livejournal.com/139067.html

You're using an S2 style now, right?

[sovay]

You're using an S2 style now, right?

I assume so; I was before I changed it. I have a paid account and I don't think any of the currently available styles are S1. I'll see if astolat's method of style creation still works. Thank you!

[edit] Alas, having been put together in 2007, it has the same obsolete HTML problem that causes the icons to vanish. I appreciate the effort! I'll look at the how-to journal. I really don't know CSS.

[rosefox]

If you go here:

http://www.livejournal.com/customize/advanced/layers.bml

Click "Edit..." next to your layout (it should say "Child of Smooth Sailing"), copy the code, paste it into a plain text (.txt) document, and send it to me, and I'll see if I can tweak it for you. It's been a while since I poked at LJ style code, but I used to be pretty proficient.

[sovay]

Click "Edit..." next to your layout (it should say "Child of Smooth Sailing"), copy the code, paste it into a plain text (.txt) document, and send it to me, and I'll see if I can tweak it for you.

Thank you. My current layout shows the icons fine—the Refried Paper variant offered by astolat is the one that's deprecated and lost its icons. I'll see if I can make it cough up style code. [edit] I'm afraid it only gives me a page of drop-down menus, not a sheet of code. I'll see if there's anywhere else to look.

[rosefox]

Sorry--I meant that I would try to do the tweaks you were asking about in the original post. I did identify the issue with astolat's style--there's a weird thing in the CSS that says "if an image isn't an emoji, it should be 0x0 px"--but I haven't yet figured out how to fix it.

EDIT: AHA. Here's how to fix the Refried Paper issue:

1) Install the Stylish browser extension.
2) Create a new style for sovay.livejournal.com.
3) The entirety of that style should be as follows:

.entry IMG:not(.emoji), .s2-entrytext IMG:not(.emoji) {
max-width: 600px !important;
}

If that makes images too wide, you can change the value to whatever you like.

[sovay]

EDIT: AHA. Here's how to fix the Refried Paper issue

Oh, wow. Thank you! I don't think I should attempt it at this time of night—I don't have the browser extension and have no idea how to create new LJ-styles except by following either your or astolat's instructions—but then I could get my journal back!

[rosefox]

By "create a new style" I mean to do that within Stylish--sorry that wasn't clear! Once the Stylish extension is installed, you'll see a little "S" icon at the top of your browser window. Load up sovay.livejournal.com, click on the "S" icon, and select "Write style for: sovay.livejournal.com". A new window will open. Copy the code from my previous comment into the "Code" box, give the style a name of your choice, and click "Save". Refresh your journal and all your icons should be back (assuming you've switched back to Refried Paper or astolat's version).

Also, this style appears to be a good port of Refried Paper into S2:

http://s2styles.livejournal.com/127221.html

[sovay]

By "create a new style" I mean to do that within Stylish--sorry that wasn't clear!

I appreciate the step-by-step information. With the exception of upgrading from S1 to S2 (see below), I really have not changed my LJ-style before, so I have no idea of the niceties.

Also, this style appears to be a good port of Refried Paper into S2

Interesting—when I switched from S1 to S2 in 2011, I used Refried Paper by idigital. tinyjo's does look pretty decent. [edit] I don't have the option of switching back to my former version of Refried Paper; it's disappeared from the styles offered by LJ. So I'd need to use either astolat's or tinyjo's. If the latter, when the instructions say "create your own layout layer and copy the code from this one into it," does that mean "create top-level layer" as seen here? This really is new to me and I am sorry to keep asking you about it.

[rosefox]

No worries, happy to help as much as I can! Yes, create a new top-level layer of the type "layout".

[sovay]

Yes, create a new top-level layer of the type "layout".

Great! It compiled and calls itself "Refried Paper." How do I apply it?

[edit] Never mind, I figured it out.

[edit edit] Ignore previous comment. It does have icons; it also has odd spacing. "Date," "Subject," "Security," and "Music" are all shifted way to the right of the icon. I have no idea how to fix that. Excuse me while I futz with the settings for a minute.

[edit edit edit] Okay, comments are weird as hell in this style! Not nested at all. Yikes. Also the customization page has many, many fewer options available to me, including no way to alter the text without going into the code. I'm going to switch back to Army Attire and try the astolat/Stylish route, I think.

[edit²] I have icons in Refried Paper! This is astolat's version; there are some weird gaps. I can't figure out how to make my list of tags (I have one right now, but it matters to me) display in the sidebar, because there is no longer a customization option available for the sidebar, I would prefer it if comments in this style did not display the name of the icon, and it seems that on the main page of a journal, entry titles are no longer links to the individual entries, which is very weird to me. This looks much, much more normal than any other style I've tried so far, however, so I might run with it while I see what else can be altered. Thank you so much!

[rosefox]

I'm so glad!

[sovay]

I'm so glad!

I really appreciate all your help!

astolat's post about the layout claims "tag list/cloud available in sidebar," but I don't see it and don't easily see an option to make it happen; likewise, the ability to use post titles as links. Do you have any idea how to correct either of these? [edit] Fixed the former. Still can't see anything to be done about the second, or the comment-identification of icons. You are very patient with this conversation. I'm sleeping about three hours a night and it makes me stupid to talk to.

[rosefox]

Since you didn't create the layout, you can't edit it, but you can get the raw source code here:

http://www.livejournal.com/customize/advanced/layersource.bml?id=8013072

and then make a top-level layout layer of your own with that code, and then poke around the code to your heart's content.

For using post titles as links, I think this is the bit of code that outputs that part of the entry:

<td class="dateheader"$screenedfg>$*text_subject</td>

So you could try replacing that td line with

<td class="dateheader"$screenedfg><a href="$.permalink_url">$*text_subject</a></td>

I can't promise that will work, but it's worth trying.

[sovay]

I can't promise that will work, but it's worth trying.

Thank you. I'll let you know what happens. I think the moral of this story is that I need to learn CSS, because right now I feel mostly like I am plugging variables into equations whose theory I don't understand.

[edit] It generated the following error:

S2 Compiler Output at Wed Jun 8 20:31:29 2016
Error compiling layer:

Compile error: line 1366, column 30: Can't reference member variable in non-class function
S2::NodeVarRef, S2/NodeVarRef.pm, 204
S2::NodeVarRef, S2/NodeVarRef.pm, 151
S2::NodeTerm, S2/NodeTerm.pm, 174
S2::NodeTerm, S2/NodeTerm.pm, 66
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 65
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeTerm, S2/NodeTerm.pm, 76
S2::NodeTerm, S2/NodeTerm.pm, 66
S2::NodeExpr, S2/NodeExpr.pm, 46
S2::NodePrintStmt, S2/NodePrintStmt.pm, 55
S2::NodeStmtBlock, S2/NodeStmtBlock.pm, 108
S2::NodeIfStmt, S2/NodeIfStmt.pm, 92
S2::NodeStmtBlock, S2/NodeStmtBlock.pm, 108
S2::NodeFunction, S2/NodeFunction.pm, 230
S2::Checker, S2/Checker.pm, 374
S2::Compiler, S2/Compiler.pm, 35

Context

1362: }
1363: if($subject != "") {
1364: """
1365: <tr>
1366:

[Error: Irreparable invalid markup ('<td $screenedfg>') in entry. Owner must fix manually. Raw contents below.]

<i>I can't promise that will work, but it's worth trying.</i>

Thank you. I'll let you know what happens. I think the moral of this story is that I need to learn CSS, because right now I feel mostly like I am plugging variables into equations whose theory I don't understand.

[edit] It generated the following error:

S2 Compiler Output at Wed Jun 8 20:31:29 2016
Error compiling layer:

Compile error: line 1366, column 30: Can't reference member variable in non-class function
S2::NodeVarRef, S2/NodeVarRef.pm, 204
S2::NodeVarRef, S2/NodeVarRef.pm, 151
S2::NodeTerm, S2/NodeTerm.pm, 174
S2::NodeTerm, S2/NodeTerm.pm, 66
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 65
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeTerm, S2/NodeTerm.pm, 76
S2::NodeTerm, S2/NodeTerm.pm, 66
S2::NodeExpr, S2/NodeExpr.pm, 46
S2::NodePrintStmt, S2/NodePrintStmt.pm, 55
S2::NodeStmtBlock, S2/NodeStmtBlock.pm, 108
S2::NodeIfStmt, S2/NodeIfStmt.pm, 92
S2::NodeStmtBlock, S2/NodeStmtBlock.pm, 108
S2::NodeFunction, S2/NodeFunction.pm, 230
S2::Checker, S2/Checker.pm, 374
S2::Compiler, S2/Compiler.pm, 35

Context

1362: }
1363: if($subject != "") {
1364: """
1365: <tr>
1366: <td class="dateheader"$screenedfg><a href="$.permalink_url">$*text_subject</a></td>
1367: <td class="datecontent"$screenedfg>$subject</td>
1368: </tr>
1369: """;
1370: }

[rosefox]

Ah, I thought something like that might happen, but it would take some poking around for me to fix it, and my arms are kind of useless right now, so I have to save them for work. :( But good luck with it!

[sovay]

it would take some poking around for me to fix it, and my arms are kind of useless right now, so I have to save them for work.

Don't worry about it. Right now I have no idea how to fix this problem myself, because I don't know any of the code, but I'll live with it and see what can be done later. Take care of your arms, and thank you.

[ladymondegreen.livejournal.com]

Based on my reading of the code, I think the problem may be in this line:

1366:

[Error: Irreparable invalid markup ('<td $screenedfg>') in entry. Owner must fix manually. Raw contents below.]

Based on my reading of the code, I think the problem may be in this line:

1366: <td class="dateheader"$screenedfg><a href="$.permalink_url">$*text_subject</a></td>

I think it should be

1366: <td class="dateheader"$screenedfg><a href="$.permalink_url"$*text_subject</a></td>

[ladymondegreen.livejournal.com]

Also, ignore the
{Error: Irreparable invalid markup ('

[Error: Irreparable invalid markup ('<td [...] {...}>') in entry. Owner must fix manually. Raw contents below.]

Also, ignore the <I>
{Error: Irreparable invalid markup ('<td {...} $screenedfg>') in entry. Owner must fix manually. Raw contents below.}</I> That's just LJ freaking out because I didn't replace my <'s with ['s.

[sovay]

Based on my reading of the code, I think the problem may be in this line

That generated a different error! (Ignore LJ's invalid markup freakout as well.)

S2 Compiler Output at Fri Jun 10 04:29:29 2016
Error compiling layer:

Compile error: line 1366, column 30: Can't reference member variable in non-class function
S2::NodeVarRef, S2/NodeVarRef.pm, 204
S2::NodeVarRef, S2/NodeVarRef.pm, 151
S2::NodeTerm, S2/NodeTerm.pm, 174
S2::NodeTerm, S2/NodeTerm.pm, 66
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 65
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeTerm, S2/NodeTerm.pm, 76
S2::NodeTerm, S2/NodeTerm.pm, 66
S2::NodeExpr, S2/NodeExpr.pm, 46
S2::NodePrintStmt, S2/NodePrintStmt.pm, 55
S2::NodeStmtBlock, S2/NodeStmtBlock.pm, 108
S2::NodeIfStmt, S2/NodeIfStmt.pm, 92
S2::NodeStmtBlock, S2/NodeStmtBlock.pm, 108
S2::NodeFunction, S2/NodeFunction.pm, 230
S2::Checker, S2/Checker.pm, 374
S2::Compiler, S2/Compiler.pm, 35

Context
1362: }
1363: if($subject != "") {
1364: """
1365: <tr>
1366:

[Error: Irreparable invalid markup ('<td [...] $screenedfg>') in entry. Owner must fix manually. Raw contents below.]

<i>Based on my reading of the code, I think the problem may be in this line</i>

That generated a different error! (Ignore LJ's invalid markup freakout as well.)

S2 Compiler Output at Fri Jun 10 04:29:29 2016
Error compiling layer:

Compile error: line 1366, column 30: Can't reference member variable in non-class function
S2::NodeVarRef, S2/NodeVarRef.pm, 204
S2::NodeVarRef, S2/NodeVarRef.pm, 151
S2::NodeTerm, S2/NodeTerm.pm, 174
S2::NodeTerm, S2/NodeTerm.pm, 66
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 65
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeSum, S2/NodeSum.pm, 64
S2::NodeTerm, S2/NodeTerm.pm, 76
S2::NodeTerm, S2/NodeTerm.pm, 66
S2::NodeExpr, S2/NodeExpr.pm, 46
S2::NodePrintStmt, S2/NodePrintStmt.pm, 55
S2::NodeStmtBlock, S2/NodeStmtBlock.pm, 108
S2::NodeIfStmt, S2/NodeIfStmt.pm, 92
S2::NodeStmtBlock, S2/NodeStmtBlock.pm, 108
S2::NodeFunction, S2/NodeFunction.pm, 230
S2::Checker, S2/Checker.pm, 374
S2::Compiler, S2/Compiler.pm, 35

Context
1362: }
1363: if($subject != "") {
1364: """
1365: <tr>
1366: <td class="dateheader"$screenedfg><a href="$.permalink_url"$*text_subject</a></td>
1367: <td class="datecontent"$screenedfg>$subject</td>
1368: </tr>
1369: """;
1370: }

[ladymondegreen.livejournal.com]

My next step would be to try rendering line 1363 as either

if($subject !="*") {

or as

if($subject !="$*text_subject") {

or possibly even

if ($subject !="$.permalink_url") {

The thing I can't know is whether one of the data variables is gone.

The original string brings up a perfect Googlewhack, to a page about your template, but the source code isn't there anymore and I have to get on a conference call. I may chase this down later when I'm not doing QA for work.

[ladymondegreen.livejournal.com]

It looks like someone made an more recent version of Refried Paper here, which I'm leaving in this post as a resource.

This reference thread has some good resources for user icons in the comments, as well as discussions with decklin and idigital who developed Refried Paper for LJ (It apparently started life as a Blogger Skin called Currency by Mena Trott).

I'll keep poking the CSS in the hopes of restoring the user icons for comments and the titles for the previous entries.

[ladymondegreen.livejournal.com]

Further research indicates that you may need to add

}
property bool show_recent_items {
des = "Show previous entries in sidebar";

in the section that has similar values near the top of the stylesheet.

It may also be worth experimenting with setting this to false.

set view_entry_disabled = true;

Still looking at the userpic issue, but I think I have isolated the section of code. Unfortunately, I don't see anything wrong with it. I'm going to recruit an actual developer to see if I can get a second opinion, because a developer I am not.

[sovay]

Further research indicates that you may need to add

Huh. Okay. I'll see if I can do that without breaking it . . .

Still looking at the userpic issue, but I think I have isolated the section of code. Unfortunately, I don't see anything wrong with it.

[edit] Ignore previous comment. This is the issue where they display fine in comments, but for reasons no one understands the style appends text to identify them rather than just showing them normally?

[ladymondegreen.livejournal.com]

Ignore previous comment. This is the issue where they display fine in comments, but for reasons no one understands the style appends text to identify them rather than just showing them normally?

I think what's causing that is in this cluster where it says picture_keyword. Try taking out just that section (and be ready to paste it back in) and see if that fixes it? Italics are mine for emphasis.

$alttext = $poster_name;
if((not $.poster->equals($.journal)) and ($.depth == 0)) {
$journal_name = $.journal.name;
$alttext = $alttext + " posting in $journal_name";
}
if($.metadata{"picture_keyword"} != "") {
$alttext = $alttext + ": " + $.metadata{"picture_keyword"};
}
if(defined $.userpic) {
$userpic = """""";
}

[sovay]

I think what's causing that is in this cluster where it says picture_keyword. Try taking out just that section (and be ready to paste it back in) and see if that fixes it? Italics are mine for emphasis.

It made no perceptible difference when removed. Thank you for trying!