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sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2014-06-07 04:56 pm

Are you human? Are you alive?

I had managed to forget until last night that there is a film about Turing coming out this year. I wish it were not starring Benedict Cumberbatch.

I need to be clear on this point: I don't dislike Cumberbatch. He's marvelous in Cabin Pressure (2008–), a radio series that I strongly recommend everyone run out and listen to now. I don't think he needs to be granted an automatic monopoly on portrayals of famously brilliant people, but I've quite enjoyed the episodes of Sherlock I've been shown and I remain sorry that I missed his National Theatre Frankenstein. It's just that—Tumblr notwithstanding—as far as I know, he's straight. And I am all for being an ally, but . . . I think I actually mind. Turing is an icon. Don't tell me there were no queer actors who couldn't have knocked the role out of the park. Aside from the fact that it is a big-budget production and I worry generally. I worry it won't trust the audience with science or mathematics or the life of the mind. I worry it won't trust them with eccentricity that doesn't fit a familiar shape. I worry about its handling of Joan Clarke—I don't want her erased, because she was a fucking amazing cryptanalyst, but I don't want her reduced to a pining would-be love interest, either, as in Whitemore's Breaking the Code (1986). They were engaged for six months and broke it off by mutual agreement and never stopped playing marathon sessions of chess all the while; they were friends until he died. Keira Knightley's playing her. I want my fears to be groundless, but I know what happens to history when it meets Hollywood. I don't want them to screw this one up. And I don't want it to be so hagiographical no one fucks in it at all.

(This is a small point and a nitpicky one, because I haven't cared in many other historical instances, but it jars every time I see a photo: haircut or no, Cumberbatch's weird looks aren't Turing's. Turing was brickier. Breaking the Code at least got that right with Derek Jacobi. Who's been with his partner Richard Clifford for thirty-seven years. No points for the raving Oxfordianism, though.)

Apparently this is my day for shouting about film, because [personal profile] yhlee listened to me very patiently on the subject of Gentleman's Agreement (1947), which holds the weird distinction of being the first time I realized a story was about the wrong person. (At least, the first time that I could articulate the problem. I was in high school.) Mostly copied from comments:

Gentleman's Agreement is an absolutely classic narrative of the type "person of privilege has their social conscience awakened by observing how bad it is for people whom the narrative doesn't bother to extend much interiority to, if any." And it was groundbreaking in its direct treatment of anti-Semitism and it won the Academy Award for Best Picture and I'm not saying it wasn't valuable, especially in 1947, but it was still incredibly frustrating to watch. On some level the script recognizes that John Garfield's Dave Goldman, being actually Jewish, might have something to say about anti-Semitism that Gregory Peck's Phil Green is never going to understand in two weeks undercover as "Phil Greenberg" or maybe a lifetime. He spends a lot of time calling other characters on their casually racist bullshit. There's a great scene late in the film where he meets with Phil's (white, Christian, well-bred) ex-fiancée and she tells him that she had to leave a party recently because someone told a racist joke and Dave, far from being impressed, tells her flat-out that if she let him get away with it—if she left without saying a word about why—she's just as much of a problem as the man who told the joke or their friends who laughed at it. That's something many people don't get even now. And I give the film genuine credit for not making Dave a long-suffering saint; he's John Garfield, all right, he's quick, scrappy, angry. He fights back and he expects anyone who claims to be on his side to do the same, whether they lose friends for it or get punched in the face. But he's still the supporting character whom the film uses as its moral center and we are meant to feel warmer and fuzzier about Phil opening his eyes to the realities of America and writing his searing exposé of polite upper-middle-class anti-Semitism and aaaaaargh.

Writing this out, I realized: that's because the film expects us to be Phil, not Dave. The nice white Christian upper middle class who deplored the Nazi atrocities, but still wouldn't like those people in our golf club. The ones who need their horizons broadened. Whereas I watched the film in sympathy with Dave; Phil's world was the alien one to me. I can't believe it took me until now to parse that. High school movie-watching me was not the most discerning critic. Mostly I got: Anti-Semitism is terrible! Good thing our protagonist is only pretending to be Jewish for a newspaper story and can drop it at any time and return to his life of newly enlightened WASP privilege! Dave Goldman should have been the protagonist.

It all comes back to voices, doesn't it. Who speaks and who is spoken for. More voices, dammit.

[identity profile] nineweaving.livejournal.com 2014-06-07 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Who speaks and who is spoken for.

This.

The Turing film looks expensive. Its producers want Names, and will justify them by afterdrag: the us guy, Cumberbatch, will speak for Turing. He will pull "our" sympathy.

I shudder any time Keira Knightley is cast as anything.

And there's no one listed as Dilly Knox, damn it.

Nine

[identity profile] nineweaving.livejournal.com 2014-06-08 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
It's not that I dislike Keira Knightley in herself: it's just that Hollywood lays her like a pink satin featherbed over parts that should be spiky. She's sugar for the moviegoing palate.

Also, I really hope she's not portrayed as the only woman at Bletchley.

Hear hear!

Cambridge didn't even grant her a proper degree until after the war.

O my. That Morcom has an excellent face.

Nine

[identity profile] lauradi7.livejournal.com 2014-06-10 02:39 pm (UTC)(link)
What I find amazing about Hollywood re: Knightley is (to put it bluntly) that they tolerate a woman who is nearly flat-chested as a female lead. Her chest size is proportional to her overall skinniness, but aren't movie stars supposed to be slim AND big-busted? I saw the Knightley & Macfadyen P&P in movie theaters twice. The first time was midday on opening day. There were small groups of men who looked like they were taking a long lunch from work to see it (I see similar groups when I go to midday opening day shows of SF or comic book movies). I was a bit mystified, but suspected that they were there as Knightley fanboys. I asked Arthur about it later, when I saw it with him. He also found her attractive, drab clothes and all (the clothes were my favorite part. The clothes in that version are set earlier than in the famous A&E mini-series). The attraction is something about her lips, although I was amused to read that director Joe Wright specifically told her that she was not allowed to do pouty things.

[identity profile] ashlyme.livejournal.com 2014-06-07 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Augh. I share your misgivings. I love "Cabin Pressure" too, but this? No. Russell Tovey *might* make a better Turing.

And double augh on Gentleman's Agreement. I hope that desk is big enough for two heads.

[identity profile] steepholm.livejournal.com 2014-06-08 08:38 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed about Tovey - and he's versatile enough to bring it off.
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[personal profile] gwynnega 2014-06-07 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, Phil lecturing his fiancee (and his Jewish secretary!) about their anti-Semitism is so incredibly problematic. I do love the scene where Dave schools the fiancee. Now I want to see an alternate version of the movie with Dave as the protagonist.
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[personal profile] gwynnega 2014-06-08 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
Write that poem.

Good idea. I'll see what I can do!
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[personal profile] gwynnega 2016-12-24 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't! But I will think about it again. It certainly hasn't become less relevant in the last couple of years...

[identity profile] davesmusictank.livejournal.com 2014-06-08 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Equally i shae your misgivings. Cumberbatch would look wrong as Turing.

[identity profile] kenjari.livejournal.com 2014-06-08 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
I keep thinking Burn Gorman (Pacific Rim, Turn) would make a good Turing.

[identity profile] kenjari.livejournal.com 2014-06-08 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Turn is an AMC show about American (although I suppose Colonial would be more accurate) spies during the Revolutionary War, based on Alexander Rose's history of the Culper ring. I have not watched any of it, since I lack cable, but it sounds very interesting and I've heard good things. I'm hoping it will arrive on Netflix soon so I can check it out.
Have you heard about The Bletchley Circle? Turing doesn't appear to be in it, but I'm very curious to see if and how it makes reference to him. it's another series I haven't yet seen, but a couple of my friends speak very highly of it.

[identity profile] lauradi7.livejournal.com 2014-06-10 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think I'm the only person who finds Gorman unwatchable. I have several episodes of Turn waiting on the DVR, but he's one of the reasons I haven't seen them yet.

[identity profile] rose-lemberg.livejournal.com 2014-06-08 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
I always had this issue with Gentleman's Agreement. And of course, the main heroine gets rewarded in the end for being a bit less awful than before (or learning to hide her bigotry better).

*hugs*

[identity profile] moon-custafer.livejournal.com 2014-06-08 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Yes -- though I like Cumberbatch, I can't see him putting a leaf in someone's mailbox in the middle of the night -- or if he did, it would have a threat scratched on it, rather than an invitation to dinner.

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2014-06-09 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
Writing this out, I realized: that's because the film expects us to be Phil, not Dave.

Yes, this is the mindset of movies that need there to be a middle-class schoolteacher in an inner-city school, or a white social worker on the res, etc--the notion that the public needs those a focus like that because the public doesn't identify with the inner-city dwellers, or with Indians on the reservations, etc. Insofar as it's true, it should be combatted--but it's not even true.

[identity profile] farwing.livejournal.com 2014-06-09 05:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I just wanted to say I really enjoy reading your movie analysis posts, even though I never watch movies. :) and the comments are all excellent as well.

[identity profile] lillibet.livejournal.com 2014-06-10 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Last year I had the misfortune of seeing Vanya and Sonia and Masha and Spike, winner of the 2013 Tony Award for Best Play. I left it seething--and was just reminded of this because Arena Stage has it in their 2015 season and is advertising it in glowing terms--for many reasons, but perhaps the biggest was that Act II features a (I shit you not) ten minute long rant about how life was better when we were young and we licked our stamps! The main point of which seems to be that it was better when there were only three channels of television and movies were events and all the media was controlled by and created for white men. Which is a particularly ironic position for the openly gay Christopher Durang to take, but in a play with an actual Magic Nego (nope, still not kidding) I suppose I shouldn't expect self-awareness of any kind. Ugh. Ugh, ugh, ugh.

[identity profile] lillibet.livejournal.com 2014-06-10 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know the show--should I put it on my reading list? The way to make a show happen at T@F is pretty much to convince someone to direct it. I think it's definitely a story that would resonate with our audience.

Alternately, we're about to announce a workshop program for new plays, so if you have time and interest in drafting a better take on the story (or anything else) by September 1st, that's also a possibility.

As for VSM&S, yes, seriously. I kept waiting for the script to expose itself in some way, but it stayed true to the end. As far as I could tell, the message was that old people (e.g. those over 50) should abandon any hope of having any kind of meaningful life. The way Sigourney Weaver was treated on that stage was embarrassing to watch--in her opening scene she is humped by her much younger lover, the script includes a stereotypical cat fight (the women scripted to hiss and claw at each other) and she is eventually abandoned by her lover because clearly the only reason a 28 year old man might want to fuck Sigourney Fucking Weaver is for what she might do for his acting career. And David Hyde Pierce's pathetic "why bother coming out at this point, it's not as though any man could ever love me" role was chilling, especially coming from Durang. Yes, I get that it's a riff on Chekov, but Chekov's characters had to embrace "life sucks and then you die" because they were 19th century Russians. Upstate New York trust fund babies have no excuse for that sort of bullshit. Watching the blue-haired audience eat it up with a spoon was nauseating and the idea that it was the Best Play of 2013 offends me on behalf of American Theatre. It was certainly the worst play I saw all year.