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sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2014-05-28 04:01 am

Then we will be a different sort of friends

So first I read Katherine Addison's The Goblin Emperor and somehow it was two in the morning. Then there were two kittens asleep on my chest and somehow it was after three. It's after four now. I managed to displace the kittens. I am going to shower.

Some of the reasons I like Maia Drazhar are the reasons I imprinted on Robert Graves' Claudius in tenth grade and liked the historical George VI before he looked to most people like Colin Firth. Some are his own. The worldbuilding of the Ethuveraz is very nice, ditto what we see of Barizhan, and I'd like to see those friends of Vedero's in about a generation. This is the first of Monette's novels I have really enjoyed; I love Kyle Murchison Booth, but he exists only in short stories and I bounced off The Doctrine of Labyrinths with a resounding spang. I started reading this one around midnight and see previous paragraph. It will not surprise anyone who has spent much time around me that I liked Thara Celehar as soon as he appeared; he had a different ending than I expected and I was glad of it. I hope someone other than me wants the stories about Shaleän the sea captain and her wife in Solunee-over-the-water, because seriously.

Anything else should probably go on hold until I've slept, which means it has an even chance of not being written up at all, the way time and pain are going lately. I found it very rare to read a novel which was as much about intrigue and politics as trust and learning; it is not grimdark and it is not a book in which everything is solved by hugging people, either, although sometimes a letter or an informal pronoun is just as good. It has airships and steam-powered bridges and is not our nineteenth century, or anyone else's. Occasional echoes of Gormenghast, although that might just be the density of daily ritual and architecture. If I read more about royal courts of our history, I might draw other comparisons. The style is incisive, graceful, and often dryly, extremely funny. Occasionally horrifying. It is amazing what a kind novel this is, while pulling few of its punches.

I understand there will be no sequels; it says so in the FAQ. Nonetheless, more like this, please?

[identity profile] sartorias.livejournal.com 2014-05-28 06:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'd like to know what makes you feel skittish, too. I thought this book would be straight up your alley--but then these things are never a perfect prediction.

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2014-05-28 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I get frustrated in prospect by things that seem like they're going to be too, I don't know, clearly laid out, maybe? I like aspects of what I'm hearing about this--what you and Sovay have said about the character of Maia and the importance of kindness, and learning the ropes, and what you said about a king who actually had to do some kinging (or maybe it was Hallie who said that). But the whole elves versus goblins dynamic. . . I know you and others have been at pains to say it's not simplistically done, but I guess I just have huge reservations.

And it may just be that I'm sick of fairies elves. I hope that's not it. I know I'm not sick of magic! But . . . I don't know. I'll circle around it a while. [livejournal.com profile] osprey_archer is going to read it; I'll see what she says, too.

[identity profile] sartorias.livejournal.com 2014-05-28 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I can get that. I am so over elves who act like pretty thirteen year olds, with their emotional angst that is the opposite of insight and wisdom, or else the amoral and violent elves of urban fantasy.

These ones are pretty, but the second-generation Tolkien feel is more like third or fourth generation, and the steampunk aspect helps in some way I can't quite articulate.

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2014-05-28 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
That means something to me! As do Sovay's good words in her main post. I imagine eventually I'll give it a try. I didn't want to read Ancillary Justice at first either, and look what happened :-)

[identity profile] sartorias.livejournal.com 2014-05-28 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's not like you don't already have a gigantic TBR pile!

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2014-05-28 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, I'm back to intrigued again.
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[personal profile] selidor 2014-06-13 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I found the chewiness in this one the best thing about it. There is a king who is untrained for his role, sure: but while he both makes mistakes and acknowledges that he makes mistakes while getting the hang of things, he is a character whose head it is interesting to be inside. He wasn't trained, nor is he a perfect judge of character; but trust is very important to him and its interactions shape vast amounts of the book.

Little details of worldbuilding. That everyone can convey expressions with their ears, and all the characters note ear position as a part of recognising body language and emotion as a perfectly normal thing. That economic interaction of kingdoms is part of what leads everyday life to be the shape it is. Nothing is ever cardboard-cutout.

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2014-06-13 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I was just thinking about this book this morning! I was thinking, "You know, I should definitely add it to my to-read list." And then came your comment--cosmic validation!