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sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2012-06-23 01:56 am

Rolling for aye through Space and Time

It is Alan Turing's hundredth birthday. It has been for some hours now in the country where he was born, but I'm on Eastern Standard Time. I spent much of my week fighting with computers, but I like to think he wouldn't mind being blamed for there being anything there to fight with at all. Google certainly thinks so.

I have been writing about Alan on and off for years—e-mails, online, longer than it took for the poem to find its shape. (Morphogenesis. He was a shape-changer, only partly of his own will.) He ghosts in my dreams and I can lay no claim to him; he was a dead man for longer than his lifetime when I discovered him, first in the person of an actor I loved, slowly emerging into his own tight smile and his schoolboy's dark-parted hair and his voice that everyone agrees was difficult, that I will never hear for myself because neither of his radio talks was recorded: I didn't know him. (You can listen to some who did. "He was not your typical Achilles figure, not a warrior king this man." I can add Odysseus now to the scrim of stories it's hard not to see him through, but if he ever told his way home, it was long after, in another country of electrons and equations, the static spark of a screen.) He became important to me nonetheless. He seems to be important to a great many other people. He should be: and for all the reasons that are worth celebrating as well as the ones that still hurt. At this distance, the apple can't be separated from the cyanide. You take the dead as you find them, bitter and sweet.

And there was another occasion in the executive mess, when Alan was holding forth on the possibilities of a 'thinking machine'. His high-pitched voice already stood out above the general murmur of well-behaved junior executives grooming themselves for promotion within the Bell corporation. Then he was suddenly heard to say: 'No, I'm not interested in developing a powerful brain. All I'm after is just a mediocre brain, something like the President of the American Telephone and Telegraph Company.' The room was paralysed, while Alan nonchalantly continued to explain how he imagined feeding in facts on prices of commodities and stock, and asking the machine the question 'Do I buy or sell?' All afternoon the phone was ringing in his laboratory, with people asking who on earth it was.
—Andrew Hodges, Alan Turing: The Enigma (1983)

Do something scientific this weekend. Do something transgressive. Enjoy strawberries and cream. Do something really new.

[identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com 2012-06-23 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
Very well said.

I was just thinking of which lines to quote, to say "I like this," but I'm come to the conclusion it would be all of them, so I'll not.

Thank you for sharing the links. I wish you a happy Turing's birthday.

Do something scientific this weekend. Do something transgressive. Enjoy strawberries and cream. Do something really new.

Words to live by. I'll try. Do you also, please?

[identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com 2012-06-24 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, yes. There were strawberries in the house when I woke up. I am thinking what to do about the science.

I'm glad to hear it.

So far I've not managed much of anything. I'll see if I can find strawberries tomorrow.

[identity profile] nineweaving.livejournal.com 2012-06-23 06:31 am (UTC)(link)
Beautifully told. Thank you.

I have some lovely little red red native strawberries...

Nine

[identity profile] nineweaving.livejournal.com 2012-06-24 11:33 am (UTC)(link)
That's a lovely young astronomer story.

From their separate houses, they saw the same comet.

Stitched forever on one thread of light. That's almost mythic. Beautiful.

Nine

[identity profile] ashlyme.livejournal.com 2012-06-23 08:17 am (UTC)(link)
I will celebrate him; I'm not sure how yet. You write well of him, as always. I should have guessed Jacobi would play Turing. What a pity these talks weren't recorded!

[identity profile] steepholm.livejournal.com 2012-06-23 08:20 am (UTC)(link)
I had a strawberry in my mouth as I sat down to read this. Now, for the cream.

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2012-06-23 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, that's perfect.

[identity profile] moon-custafer.livejournal.com 2012-06-23 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I strikes me that if it weren't suicide, then society is not off the hook for having hurt him - but it would mean they weren't able to *break* him; and instead had to resort to telling untruths or half-truths about him after his death. I'd heard the case was ambiguous, but I think I'd missed the part where the apple was never tested for poison, and the judge effectively said, "well, there's no suicide note and his friends all say he was acting normally in the days before, but hey - genius/homosexual = unstable."

If it was an accident, I wonder whether Turing is currently laughing at everyone, or annoyed that his work was interrupted early.
Edited 2012-06-23 21:04 (UTC)

[identity profile] moon-custafer.livejournal.com 2012-06-23 11:17 am (UTC)(link)
I'd never heard about the leopard spots before, though I knew he had an interest in fibonacci spirals.

It makes sense as a mechanism that would have occurred to a computer scientist: on/off switches.

[identity profile] browngirl.livejournal.com 2012-06-23 01:10 pm (UTC)(link)
This is such a beautiful post. May I link to it in my journal?

And Happy Hundredth Birthday to Mr. Turing!

[identity profile] ladymondegreen.livejournal.com 2012-06-23 03:10 pm (UTC)(link)
He became important to me nonetheless. He seems to be important to a great many other people. He should be: and for all the reasons that are worth celebrating as well as the ones that still hurt. At this distance, the apple can't be separated from the cyanide. You take the dead as you find them, bitter and sweet.

This.

I have fallen in love with many people who were long dead, and told their stories to learn to know them and see how their stories would change me. That wasn't a conscious decision at first, it's just easy to get fascinated with a fixed story and wonder about what it meant to the person whose story it was. For me, it's the paradigm of a one-way relationship, but with an odd sort-of time travel. It generally makes me think of Ghost by the Indigo Girls, which is about having that sort of relationship with Virginia Woolf.

[identity profile] ladymondegreen.livejournal.com 2012-06-23 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Alas, posting while distracted. It's Virginia Woolf by the Indigo Girls, but Ghost also has that sentiment, just not directed to a famous historical personage. I get the impression that the ghost in Ghost is very much alive, just absent.

[identity profile] ladymondegreen.livejournal.com 2012-06-24 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know if falling in love is the right terminology (I really don't want to sleep with Wittgenstein; all issues of compatibility aside, I think I'd hurt myself), but I have been trying to keep track of my ghosts. I found a lot of them first through other people's fiction. John Adams, oddly, speaking of the upcoming holiday, was one of the first. Derek Jacobi's Claudius was another. I got better at research as I grew.

Some of mine are Harry Houdini, Emma Lazarus, Rashi, Harry Chapin, Tallulah Bankhead, P.T. Barnum, Dorothy Parker, and Steve Goodman, roughly in order of discovery, and there are doubtless at least a few others, and I have no doubt there will be more as I read. To some degree every time I read a biography I meet a new person and notice them when they show up in other people's narratives.

The links are all dead by now, but I made a post a couple of years ago of songs about historical figures. I can send you any that look interesting.)

Thank you!

*makes a mental note to look at that when I'm not packing up a hotel room in Toronto*

Also, mine yidishe tante is excited to meet you someday. I just got off a boat with her about an hour ago. :)

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2012-06-23 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
What a wonderful post. We were talking about you last night, Sovay, in the context of its being Alan Turing's birthday. "Sovay really loves him," I said, and the ninja girl said, "Lots of people do; he's really important." And then we talked about the thinking machine, and I confessed to not understanding its parameters, and then the ninja girl explained.

but if he ever told his way home, it was long after, in another country of electrons and equations,

That's lovely--and so's the story you quote from Alan Turing: The Enigma

[identity profile] grimmwire.livejournal.com 2012-06-23 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Will try to think up a transgressive science experiment that involves strawberries and cream...
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[personal profile] selidor 2012-06-25 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
No strawberries; even my valiant balcony plant has given up by now in the face of frosts. Science, yes. Many processors did my bidding in parallel over the weekend.

if he ever told his way home, it was long after, in another country of electrons and equations, the static spark of a screen

We don't have AI now because he left too soon, but there's a spacecraft about to land on Mars that can practically think for itself. That might have made him happy.