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sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2011-11-09 01:32 am

I still don't think you're the god of thunder, but you ought to be

Norwich tomorrow, Wednesday. Come if you're in the area. I am still very happy about A Mayse-Bikhl.

In the meantime—

Allowing for the fact that it makes a blended crack pretzel of Norse mythology, Kenneth Branagh's Thor (2011) is a surprisingly enjoyable movie. Its major fault is how quickly all the pieces spin by, the feeling that there should be more of it—which I suppose is going to be The Avengers (2012), but I would happily have watched Chris Hemsworth culture-shock his way around New Mexico for another half-hour, or Tom Hiddleston do pretty much anything. He's the element I should analyze when I have not had a terrible day (which I have, I resent it, I don't need any more karmic counterbalancing), because he bears almost no resemblance to his mythological prototype and he is a plausible and compelling Loki. Marvel can do whatever it likes with gods I don't have a personal stake in, but I expected to be bleeding from the ears from the reconfigured family relationships alone. Instead I wanted much, much more of him. I love how he has a habit of appearing in mirrors, how you can almost never tell what is calculation and what he really feels; how, black-haired, blue-eyed, feverishly pale, he's a callback to the icy dark of Jötunheim, but the dusk-blue that burns up through his skin at its touch, hel-blár, is the one mask he never knew he was wearing. He has a thin-skinned, transparent look about him, a raw edge under glass. It makes him an effective deceiver: he looks as though you should be able to read him with one level stare, which will only show you what you want to see. And it makes him vulnerable: the incredible, child's desolation in his face as he lets go of everything that has been his life and falls into Ginnungagap like a collapsing star. Like a good trickster, he is never a single, quantifiable thing. All of his scenes are exactly as they should be.

(I am shortchanging Hemsworth, who in some ways has a much trickier role than Hiddleston. It's not just that he looks like a Viking god—and it looks good on him, not musclebound, simply built to a bigger than mortal scale—but he convinces with the archaic warrior's directness that needs not to come off as stupidity, the courtliness that can't be staged; he commits to being all in the open as fully as Hiddleston to being inscrutable. You can go wrong with charismatic villainy and still be fun to watch, but go wrong with true-hearted heroism and you don't even get camp, just cardboard. That doesn't happen here. I just still gravitate toward the outsider, the solitary, the loving and hungry brother who is always, even when it saves your life, doing something behind your back.)

It's not a tonally consistent film, which works oddly in its favor. The Æsir with their complex bindings of love and blood and betrayal are the stuff of grand tragedy, while the scenes on Earth are handled with a geeky, breezy humor: stripped of his godhood, Thor crashes to earth in a completely different genre, where he's the MacGuffin of a fast-unraveling day-in-the-life of a research astrophysicist that just happens to include wormholes and men in black. Natalie Portman's Jane Foster isn't Tony Stark or even Bruce Banner; she's a slightly fringe scientist, chasing geomagnetic storms in the desert, which means she's built most of her own equipment and can't afford a real lab assistant, making do instead with a Pop-Tart-munching PoliSci major who really shouldn't be allowed to handle the Taser. (The film does pass the Bechdel test. And while I would have liked to see Jane doing more research, I appreciate that she conforms to neither of the prevailing stereotypes of female scientists onscreen, sexy with her glasses off or just one of the boys. She's a science fiction fan without being a manic pixie dreamgirl, she's not the skeptic whose cold equations are blown away by Thor's demonstrable powers; she's a passionate believer in the awesomeness of the universe that only becomes more awesome the more we find out there is to learn. You can imagine her in Asgard with her research notebook, quizzing Heimdall about the mechanics of the Einstein-Rosen Bifröst. And just for that fact, I'll probably give the silly line about star alignments and quadrants a pass.) There is inevitable fish-out-of-water comedy, but some of it is as funny to the human characters as it is to us. There are throwaway, intelligent things in the script: I approve of Erik Selvig, for example, not just because I'll watch Stellan Skarsgård in anything that isn't Lars von Trier, but because there is a tendency in movies that make use of myth and folklore to keep a character of the appropriate ethnicity around to serve as an infodump—Erik hears "Thor Odinsson," snorts, dismisses the guy as a nutbar, and never explains anything to Jane beyond tossing her the film's equivalent of a copy of the D'Aulaires. The most romantic moment between Thor and Jane is not really their kiss, but their bonding over her research, as he draws for her the Nine Worlds and the branches of Yggdrasil that she is beginning to be able to see in the filaments of galaxies across the void. And then something changes among the Æsir, and the worlds begin uneasily to merge, and we end in a strange inversion of where we started: not with a human woman gazing up at the sky, but a god looking out fruitlessly for Earth.

I could have done with fewer battles. I would have liked more soliloquies. The main characters were so interestingly drawn, I wanted them to talk more—I keep forgetting how much more time an action sequence takes up onscreen than on the page, and every now and then I had the disquieting sense that some bit of connective tissue had been left on the cutting room floor. I'm told there are deleted scenes. As to the post-credits teaser: I'm sure in practice it would have gone all genderfaily, but I'm a little sorry that if Loki is going to be whispering in someone's ear all through The Avengers, it isn't going to be Jane's; she's certainly presented as a more than capable physicist, and he did threaten to pay her a visit. And that could have gotten complicated with Thor. The fact that I am talking about seeing the sequel at all is more than I expected. My summer blockbuster of choice this year is still, I think, Captain America—which I need to write up—but I avoided this one in theaters because I knew Marvel Comics wasn't the Poetic Edda, and it is possible I made a mistake. Either that, or I'm under somebody's malign influence. It's a chaotic system.

I hope I can get some sleep.
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[identity profile] handful-ofdust.livejournal.com 2011-11-10 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
The comics have always been weird for me, mainly because I'm not as big a fan of Jack Kirby as most Marvel nerds are. But the recent stuff has gone in some really interesting directions, and the three-graphic-novel run of Thor written by J. Michael Straczynski (again, not everybody's cup of tea, but when he's on he's really on, from my POV) is really striking, especially since it features Girloki.

[identity profile] cucumberseed.livejournal.com 2011-11-09 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I had heard mostly luke-warm recommendations of the film, no one had anything bad to say about it, but no one saw as deep into it as you did. I would now very much like to see it.

Speaking of things I would very much like to see, the way is open, and I shall be at your reading!

I hope today is a better day.

[identity profile] strange-selkie.livejournal.com 2011-11-09 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Sleipnir is not a hawurse. Sleipnir is a kitty.

It's right there in the D'Aulaire illustration. Clearly a kitty.

[identity profile] strange-selkie.livejournal.com 2011-11-11 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
So if I train her to say "Cat Sleipnir" the way she says
"Cat Bast" (the indefinite cat is always a kitty, but a cat with a name is a cat X) we're all bound for Niflheim?
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[personal profile] larryhammer 2011-11-09 02:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I really liked what Hemsworth and Hiddleston brought to their characters, and liked how Jane was not shortchanged nearly as much as female scientists usually are in movies. My biggest gripe with the movie was the whitewashing: in that part of New Mexico, and this would be true of most of the state, at least half the people in the background in the town and at the pickup-tractor pull would have been hispanic, and I saw exactly no one who was.

Not Norse myth by a long shot, but fun, and did a decent job of playing with the system it put in place instead.

---L.
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[personal profile] larryhammer 2011-11-09 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
The rest of the local sets were quite convincing, architecture, worn edges, and all -- I felt like I've been to that town, or a handful just like it. It was only the dressing of people that was very off.

---L.

[identity profile] rysmiel.livejournal.com 2011-11-09 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not a tonally consistent film, which works oddly in its favor.

I think Branagh has a surpassingly good understanding of the way Marvel's Asgard hovers between the grandiosely magnificent and the faintly silly, and keeps a very difficult balance very well there.

I'd agree totally on your take on Hiddlestone and Hemsworth, with the added observation that Hemsworth gave me the impression that Christopher Reeve's Superman was an influence he was building on, and that was a goodly part of why he worked so well.

[identity profile] handful-ofdust.livejournal.com 2011-11-10 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Idris Elba's version of Heimdall seems to suggest that his mistrust of Loki comes directly from not being able to see him all the time, which he appears in an odd way to admire--though other Aesir think all that Loki is capable of are "tricks", Heimdall knows better, and thus keeps on his guard. Yet he nonetheless doesn't seem to have an active dislike of him, even after Loki frost-zaps him; I think I see a certain mutual respect there in much the same way that all the other Aesir respect/vaguely fear Heimdall, who seems at once the most powerful and unknowable of them all, restrained only by his loyalty to whoever holds Asgard's throne.

[identity profile] snowy-owlet.livejournal.com 2011-11-09 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup, this is largely what I saw in the movie too. I liked it even better on second viewing, on a small screen. The big, grandiose hoo-ha didn't get so much in the way.

[identity profile] nineweaving.livejournal.com 2011-11-09 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
My gods. You (and Tom Hiddleston) make me want to see a Branagh movie of a Marvel take on Norse mythology! You are a spellbinder.

Nine

[identity profile] lauradi7.livejournal.com 2011-11-09 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Hemsworth said in an interview that when he first arrived on the set, Branagh assigned him the St Crispin's day speech to deliver the next day, in order to put some gravitas into his voice. My husband's theory is that it was actually to intimidate him, but of course we don't know. That's a (non-existent) youtube video I'd love to see.

[identity profile] madwriter.livejournal.com 2011-11-09 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Make certain that Loki is not displeased with you.