sovay: (PJ Harvey: crow)
sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2010-04-28 09:31 pm

While memory holds a seat in this distracted globe

I wonder if anyone has ever done a production of Hamlet where the prince is genuinely driven mad by his experience of the Ghost.

I am watching the RSC production with David Tennant and Patrick Stewart currently being broadcast on PBS—I thought of it when I saw the armored Ghost reach for its son, pull him close and embrace him; he clutches on to his father's cold flesh and it was unexpected and poignant, but no more. It should be strange to be hugged by a dead thing. It should be disordering and profoundly wrong; it should leave you wrecked in all your certainties, not only that a civil mask has been ripped off the corruption of human life, but that heaven and earth are not even secure in their relations. Hauntings are one thing to speak of, another to feel. From that moment on, of course it's a tragedy. Hamlet belongs to the other world. It's put forth its hand and touched him. And how can you think about life the same way after that?

(Okay, John Woodvine rocks as the Player King.)

[identity profile] cucumberseed.livejournal.com 2010-04-29 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
It should be strange to be hugged by a dead thing. It should be disordering and profoundly wrong; it should leave you wrecked in all your certainties, not only that a civil mask has been ripped off the corruption of human life, but that heaven and earth are not even secure in their relations.

That's good ghost. Story?

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2010-04-29 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Or poem--another alternative Hamlet?

[identity profile] nineweaving.livejournal.com 2010-04-29 06:04 am (UTC)(link)
I'd change A Midsummer Night's Dream for Julius Caesar, not being so avid a classicist.

In Hamlet I love the Players. Quelle surprise.

Nine

[identity profile] nineweaving.livejournal.com 2010-04-29 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, that sounds marvellously eerie.

Nine
Edited 2010-04-29 02:22 (UTC)

[identity profile] nineweaving.livejournal.com 2010-04-29 06:05 am (UTC)(link)
Can't wait.

Nine

[identity profile] rushthatspeaks.livejournal.com 2010-04-29 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
In the Derek Jacoby version, I've always read Jacoby as playing it that the ghost does drive Hamlet mad, instantly, at first sight, and it gets worse the more they're around each other-- but Hamlet does not know it. He is mad and thinks he's shamming: his feigning brings him, in some ways, closer to sane.

[identity profile] nineweaving.livejournal.com 2010-04-29 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
It's streaming on Netflix.

Nine

[identity profile] teenybuffalo.livejournal.com 2010-04-29 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
The most important scenes in the play have always been the guards, Horatio and Hamlet confronting the Ghost, for me. Nothing else quite lives up, after that.

And now I have no excuse not to watch the David Tennant Hamlet, myself. Patrick Stewart? Sign me up!

[identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com 2010-04-29 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
Fascinating. I suppose I'll have to see if I can locate this production on PBS.

Thank you for letting us know about it.

[identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com 2010-04-29 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks! I've no Netflix subscription, but I'll see if I can find the time to watch it off the PBS website.

[identity profile] ron-drummond.livejournal.com 2010-04-29 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yes! It should be done. I wonder if it has been, to the extent you suggest. I too must watch the Jacoby version, as Rush speaks.

[identity profile] poliphilo.livejournal.com 2010-04-29 11:51 am (UTC)(link)
I'd don't know what his performance was like, but the story goes that Daniel Day Lewis saw his own dead father on stage during one of the ghost scenes- and had to withdraw from the production.

[identity profile] lauradi7.livejournal.com 2010-04-29 12:37 pm (UTC)(link)
DDL was famous at one time for Method acting - that should have fed into his process ;-)

[identity profile] rysmiel.livejournal.com 2010-04-29 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I've always thought it could be playable not just as that, but as the Ghost not actually being Hamlet's father but the Devil trying to bring the family down; it would put an interesting spin on the tension between non-Christian avenge-your-dead-father and Christian virtues in the text, which I see as the engine of the whole plot. (Cutting Claudius actually confessing to the murder would, alas, be going too far.)
Edited 2010-04-29 20:07 (UTC)

[identity profile] moon-custafer.livejournal.com 2010-04-30 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I've only ever seen the Brannagh, but it left me wondering whether Horatio wasn't an agent provocateur for Norway, goading the rest of the court into killing each other off and leaving a convenient power vacuum.

Oh, and what I've heard about the original saga version is pretty interesting (IIRC, Hamlet does go to England and has a bunch of adventures there; marrys a Scottish warrior queen who comes back and helps him rescue Ophelia and burn down Elsinore; then the three off them go off and live happily ever after until the next revenge plot breaks out.)