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sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2010-01-29 02:54 pm

ἴψοι δὴ τὸ μέλαθρον ἀέρρετε τέκτονες ἄνδρες

So. J.D. Salinger. He was not one of my early imprints; he was not a favorite of mine in college; he was a piece of the landscape and I'm sorry he's gone, although anyone has an excuse at ninety-one. The timing was appropriate, in a hindsight-only way—a panel Eric moderated at Arisia left me wanting to re-read the Glass family stories, which were my introduction to Salinger rather than The Catcher in the Rye, although like everyone else in this country I read the novel in ninth or tenth grade. (He was not my first encounter with profanity in fiction, either. That was Ursula K. Le Guin.) I liked the titles he gave his stories, like paintings. The Onion had the best last word, so what I've got is songs.

Belle & Sebastian, "Le Pastie de la Bourgeoisie"

Wouldn't you like to get away?
Give yourself up to the allure of
Catcher in the Rye?

PJ Harvey, "Angelene"

Rose is my color and white
Pretty mouth and green my eyes


PJ Harvey, "A Perfect Day, Elise"

He got burned by the sun
His face so pale and his hands so worn


Amanda Palmer, "1.1.94"

There is still time—we could still try
It's very difficult when no one's there to catch you in the rye

Don't be scared of the books you read...

[identity profile] cucumberseed.livejournal.com 2010-01-29 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
One of my favorite Belle & Sebastian songs. I have been off them for a long time, but it might be high time to revisit them.

Salinger was one of those guys; he is in a whole lot of people since him who write, if just a little. I got him through other places (I didn't read the book in question until rather shockingly late in life. I dodged it in high school, somehow) but I got him, anyway. I'm kind of upset to note [livejournal.com profile] nihilistic_kid's observation that a lot of SF writers have been kind of beastly to him. That's unfortunate.

[identity profile] cucumberseed.livejournal.com 2010-01-31 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
You have two of my favorite of their songs, then. I need to upload some of their albums and I'll send you some more.

As for the SF response to Salinger, I have a couple of really half-baked hypotheses. One of them relates to what you were saying about him being a mainstream exemplar (despite, yeah, 40 years of not being in the mainstream) and it relates to the bad inferiority complex a lot of SF authors seem to have. The other is that SF, in general, and this one is less formed than the first, likes heroes, and Holden Caulfield ain't.

[identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com 2010-01-31 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
As for the SF response to Salinger, I have a couple of really half-baked hypotheses.

I actually think those are pretty reasonable hypotheses, for whatever it's worth. Especially the first one.