Do they still have sandwiches there?

[sovay]

Man. You adapt one gesture from the Kohanim and the next thing you know, six billion of your people are dead and the rest in galactic diaspora. But why did you have to pick on us?

. . . by which you may understand that I just got back from Star Trek (2009) and I have an extraordinarily bad heachache, so this is not going to be a review. On the whole, my reaction is positive. Simon Pegg as Scotty: awesome. John Cho as Sulu: very awesome. Anton Yelchin as Chekov: adorable. It is quite likely I prefer Chris Pine to William Shatner. I do not prefer Zachary Quinto to Leonard Nimoy, but I did not expect to. And I really do not prefer Karl Urban to DeForest Kelley, which is unfortunate—McCoy is traditionally my favorite of the three principals, as problematic as he is, but there were places in this film he actively annoyed me. I would have liked more for Zoe Saldaña to do, because xenolinguistics: awesome. I have a wholly unwarranted fondness for Bruce Greenwood based on I'm Not There and having seen Chariots of Fire last summer, I am pleased to find Ben Cross still working; I can't explain anything to do with Spock's mother, at all. Any further discussion should probably go in the comments, if there's anyone left who hasn't talked the movie out weeks ago. It did make me want to rewatch the original series.

I wish the Omni theater at the Museum of Science still had Leonard Nimoy's voice.

Comments

[cucumberseed.livejournal.com]

I will grant Chris Pine over young Will Shatner, but I have a soft spot in my heart for vainglory that the older Shatner seems to embody, own, and truly dig.

[sovay]

I will grant Chris Pine over young Will Shatner, but I have a soft spot in my heart for vainglory that the older Shatner seems to embody, own, and truly dig.

If I think about it, that may be where I stand. Chris Pine is playing a role rather than a captain-shaped space in the plot and it's one I find interesting, where I never felt much of anything about Shatner's Kirk, but I can't imagine him screaming at Ricardo Montalbán or telling a taxi driver, "Well, double dumbass on you!"

[asakiyume.livejournal.com]

Tangential--but you reminded me by mentioning screaming at Ricardo Montalbán--but what was the point in this current movie when someone screamed someone's name? Because wakanomori, I, and all four of the forest creatures were whisper-shouting KHAAAAAAANNNNN! at that point.

I bet the people behind us hated us.

You're right of course about young Shatner-he was just a captain-shaped space--I had to smile reading that.

I guess I just found this guy kind of obnoxious unpleasant. I didn't like him eating an apple during the Kobayashi Maru bit. It may be a more frivolous thing: He swaggered, and for me to like a guy who swaggers, I have to find the guy physically attractive... and I didn't find this one physically attractive. It took me a long time to get to the point where I could find any swaggerers attractive, but I do now, sometimes. But not that guy.

Within the confines of the movie story, he definitely improved after his conversation with Old!Spock.

[sovay]

but what was the point in this current movie when someone screamed someone's name?

When Spock escapes from Nero's ship with the little craft original-Spock was piloting to Romulus when its sun went nova and the plot kicked off, Nero screams after him in time-honored fashion: "SPOCK! SPOOOOOOOCK!" It was endearing.

It may be a more frivolous thing: He swaggered, and for me to like a guy who swaggers, I have to find the guy physically attractive... and I didn't find this one physically attractive.

I don't argue that he's cocky. I don't want to go to bed with Chris Pine's Kirk; I just find him a more complex character than Shatner's.

Within the confines of the movie story, he definitely improved after his conversation with Old!Spock.

Yeah. Leonard Nimoy does that to people.

[asakiyume.livejournal.com]

I just find him a more complex character than Shatner's.

I agree with you there--he is shown to be more complex. And he develops during the course of the movie, which is something that Shatner-Kirk didn't do much--not in the series ever, and in the movies hardly.