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sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2008-05-06 02:07 am

Even though she cost him all he had to lose

Since I still feel like a train fell on me, I curled up on the couch downstairs and watched first David Lean's Brief Encounter (1945) and then John Ford's The Long Voyage Home (1940). The former I found lovely and classic; the latter I want to own. It was the perfect film for me to watch right now. It's an Odyssey with no νόστος: the only real home for its sailors is either the sea itself or their awaiting deaths; the land is more alien to them than the water, but they all dream of it. It is not out of key with Kipling, either. And there are small points that the drama crests toward, the four one-act plays by Eugene O'Neill out of which the script was adaptated, but really it's one seam out of a narrative that starts nowhere and never stops; sea-like. But for others the long voyage home never ends. The film was made in 1940 and the action has been updated from World War I to II, but wartime is an incidental condition. It's the sea that calls you and the sea that never lets you go; it cuts you off and it binds you together. I don't mean the stories are nihilistic. People matter—who you hold on to, who you keep faith with, who you don't leave behind. (To be discussed in comments, if anyone wants to. I am too tired to deal with cut-tags and synopses that don't run on.) But the sea doesn't care. It was here first. You can swear to love till the seas run dry, but you can't outlive the ocean. I don't find this an upsetting thought. I think we've established already I'm not normal.

And some are drowned in deep water,
And some in sight o' shore,
And word goes back to the weary wife
And ever she sends more.

—Rudyard Kipling, "The Sea-Wife" (1893)

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2008-05-06 09:56 am (UTC)(link)
But the sea doesn't care

As a kid (and still today), that is one reason why I loved being in the woods. I could get away to the woods--because the woods didn't care, the woods just was. It was a wild existence that didn't have anything at all to do with "the fury and mire of human veins."

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2008-05-06 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I can picture you in them--and by the sea. In my mind, my picture of you blends with my picture of the fisher boy from your poem.
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[personal profile] genarti 2008-05-06 07:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. Exactly.

I can understand sea-longing, but it's not mine; mine is the yearning for cool green forest-depths and hillsides and the granite bones of mountains rising out of the tangled growth of the forest floor.

There's an age there, and a timeless constancy, that reminds me with every breath that all of this has been here for centuries and will be after I'm gone too, and my life and all my hurried moments are nothing but a slow breath to it. I find it deeply comforting.
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[identity profile] clarionj.livejournal.com 2008-05-06 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm beginning to think I haven't read enough Kipling--between the two excerpts you've posted now.

Also, now I'm wondering if you've taken any sea voyages, and if so, how you made it back to land :)
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[personal profile] chomiji 2008-05-06 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)

Kipling was in the wrong place at the wrong time, I'm afraid. He was a marvelous writer. I loved most of his poems between the sections of the Jungle Book.

[identity profile] cucumberseed.livejournal.com 2008-05-06 02:15 pm (UTC)(link)
But the sea doesn't care. It was here first. You can swear to love till the seas run dry, but you can't outlive the ocean. I don't find this an upsetting thought. I think we've established already I'm not normal.

Awesome.

At the risk of answering a rhetorical question with something you already know...

[identity profile] cucumberseed.livejournal.com 2008-05-06 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I suppose it gives them a place to collect what they sense and a buffer against what they may feel. Mortality makes the world a very strong wine, and I suppose it's not fair to begrudge people their water, but ... yeh.

Then there are the cowards for whom wonder is a terror...

[identity profile] cucumberseed.livejournal.com 2008-05-06 06:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I think understanding is overrated in this case.

And thank you.

[identity profile] hans-the-bold.livejournal.com 2008-05-06 03:37 pm (UTC)(link)
"I think we've established already I'm not normal."

You're Abby-someone, then?

(Insert Marty Feldman eyes here....)
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[personal profile] seajules 2008-05-06 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Clearly, I should see this movie. And why should one want to outlive the ocean? Where else is heaven for those whose hearts she holds?
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[personal profile] seajules 2008-05-13 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Currently it seems to exist on DVD only as a part of a John Wayne box set

Well, Spouse is a John Wayne fan, so if I have to pick it up that way, he'll doubtless appreciate the other movies in the set.

Also, I was very sad not to grab Something Rich and Strange before it disappeared from the bookstore shelves. Now it's a bit on the pricy side.