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sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2008-04-26 03:03 am

You give us a tantrum and a know-it-all grin

Tonight I went to see Dreams with Sharp Teeth, Erik Nelson's documentary on Harlan Ellison, at the Brattle Theatre as part of the Independent Film Festival of Boston 2008. It was terrific.* Someone from the film festival came out beforehand to introduce it and explain that this was the documentary's New England premiere, unfortunately sans Harlan, so I was particularly glad I had talked my parents into it. What I cannot figure out is why the audience totaled at most twenty-five. Did the film already hit the con circuit, so no one in Boston fandom felt the need to attend? Has everyone simply heard enough of Harlan Ellison? Has no one heard of Harlan Ellison? How many documentaries can there be that interview Neil Gaiman, Robin Williams, and Ron Moore all on the same subject, anyway? I am genuinely puzzled. If nothing else, it was intensely quotable. And made me want to unpack and re-read several boxes of books.

Tomorrow, I hit up the BSO box office for tickets to Les Troyens. And get my pictures developed!

*Harlan Ellison was not one of my early, formative influences, like Peter S. Beagle or Jane Yolen or Patricia McKillip, but he is one of the most important to me. From about ninth grade until my first or second year of college, if asked to name my favorite writers, I would have started the list with Harlan Ellison, Ray Bradbury, and Theodore Sturgeon, whom I rediscovered more or less simultaneously and in pursuit of whom I scoured the used bookstores of Boston, New York, Gainesville, any English-speaking city I happened to find myself in, which is why I own near-complete collections of all three and some of the reason I need an apartment with library space. I did not have a writer's circle. In high school, I had one friend who wrote poems—many of which I still think are better than my own—and one friend who was writing up her loves and trials in the third person with all the names changed. No one was bouncing chapters of their novel off me. I read Ellison and Sturgeon and Bradbury (and later Cordwainer Smith, whose "The Ballad of Lost C'mell" would furnish my senior yearbook quote: like my last name, misspelled) and never worried that the short stories I was writing were some kind of lesser form, études for a novel. Yes, Fahrenheit 451; yes, Some of Your Blood; yes, Spider Kiss. But the substance of their work was short fiction. I had the shelvesful of collections to prove it. While I still hold Lloyd Alexander responsible for the fact that I sent my stories anywhere, it is not unfair to blame Ellison et al. for the thought that I might be able to make a living out of them.

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2008-04-26 11:21 am (UTC)(link)
[livejournal.com profile] sovay, I loved your asterisked note. You may not have had the social exchanges with those writers that you would have had with a writing circle, but wow, they must have been great mentors. And blessings on Lloyd Alexander, for encouraging you to send your stories out (among the many, many, many reasons to bless him...)

[identity profile] nihilistic-kid.livejournal.com 2008-04-26 12:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Shucks; had you mentioned the film (or perhaps you did and I missed it by skimming) was playing in an earlier entry, I would have rushed to see it. I'm neck deep in thesis-novel and haven't had time to look at any movie schedules.

[identity profile] straussmonster.livejournal.com 2008-04-26 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Harlan Ellison is one of those few people I find personally distasteful enough to not really care what quality of writing I'm missing.

[identity profile] straussmonster.livejournal.com 2008-04-26 07:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Orson Scott Card; any inclinations I ever had to read John C. Wright have been killed by reading his LJ.

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2008-04-26 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
John C. Wright called me "stupid" in his LJ one time--the only time anyone has been unpleasant to me on LJ, ever. I know that's just part of the hurly-burly of discourse for some people, but it was waaaay too much for me. *sigh*

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2008-04-26 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, he may still write interesting books--if you like his series don't stop for my sake (though I appreciate the support)--he just has an approach to discussion that I find unpleasant.

[identity profile] straussmonster.livejournal.com 2008-04-27 07:39 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, I admit I'm surprised at the only time someone's ever been unpleasant on LJ, but I've spent too long in fandom. :)

But John C. Wright is a riot. He thinks he's all Rational Man of Reason, but he descends into sweeping generalizations and insults at the drop of a hat.

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2008-04-27 10:49 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah--I know fandom is much more rough-and-tumble; I've never been part of that, though. I had come to John C. Wright's journal because I was interested in some stuff he had written about the His Dark Materials books, but I ventured to offer a slight criticism of an analogy he had drawn (in an entry on another topic). I wasn't even opposed to his position; I just thought the analogy could be improved. But it wasn't worth it. I mean, to be so brittle that you read even slight disagreement as an attack that merits name calling as an appropriate response--yuck. I know this is what whole swaths of the Internet are all about, but I'm not interested in that.

But I've come to realize just how easy it is to be misinterpreted online; people read very quickly and don't stop and think before they respond (not saying that he did this; just thinking that this is how it appears, when I read through threads in certain discussions). It means that for all intents and purposes they're not discussing anything, they're just practicing expressing their own views and honing their skills on creative insults and put downs.

[identity profile] straussmonster.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
It has to do with knowing your audience, too. Like, I know that [livejournal.com profile] sovay, who is familiar with my generally profane ways, isn't going to take offense at things; but when newbies or strangers pop in, I'm not going to go full-blast and have it misinterpreted. That's just being polite.

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2008-04-30 06:31 pm (UTC)(link)
*nods*

I guess the people who visit the journal have some responsibility to understand the tone, too, though--in your own journal, you should be able to talk the way you want, and if people don't like that or don't understand, then they can choose not to read it.

[identity profile] cucumberseed.livejournal.com 2008-04-26 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Ellison is a funny man, though only a quarter of my use of the word funny is humor, and then, that's mostly because, to a certain extent, I see his (well documented and miserable) personality as a sort of divine punishment inflicted on all of us for reasons we can't fathom and may never learn. He is also a genius, and after having the president of Hutchinson Wampoa get blind and stinking and falling asleep in my lap once, I understand that genius is also a divine punishment inflicted for reasons that I don't understand and will probably never learn.

I'm usually one of the first to jump up and join the haters' brigade when some author or another is a miserable person, but not Harlan. I can't bring myself to do it, because he's a genius, even if he is a dick.

[identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com 2008-04-26 04:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Glad you enjoyed the documentary. Hope you get seats you like and that the pictures come out well.

[identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com 2008-04-26 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know the hall, but that sounds pretty nice. Enjoy!
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[personal profile] yendi 2008-04-27 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Alas, I wasn't feeling all that well, otherwise I'd likely have been the 26th person there.

It probably didn't help that the Somerville was showing Big Man Japan the same night as a part of the fest; although it's not technically an overlapping theme, it's a guilty-pleasure genre flick that might have taken away some folks who could have been in the Sharp Teeth audience.