sovay: (Rotwang)
sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2008-02-20 05:50 pm

Her one photo, kohl-eyed, and he's bent close, alive

The Griffin Museum of Photography in Winchester has a stunning exhibit: photographs taken in the ruins of the hospital buildings on Ellis Island between 1998 and 2003. They are the closest I know to true spirit photography; they glow like old stained glass, some of the most beautiful images I have ever seen and the most haunted. Lead paint has ruined to the bluish violet of winter dusk and flaked down to cover the floor like rain. Ivy bursts in through a half-sashed window, holding the barren frame in place against a flame of late sun. The Statue of Liberty is reflected, small and exact as an icon, in the mirror over a rust-drained sink in the tuberculosis ward. I had not even known the museum existed; I found it through a mention in the Boston Globe. Go, if you can. Look, if you don't believe me. My great-grandmother Ida Friedman came to this country with a man who in some stories is her fiancé, in others her lover; all the way from Vishnevets in the Ukraine, but at Ellis Island he was sent back because of his health. He might be one of the ghosts in these rooms, whose absence is as tangible as a presence. The air is charged with them. I only marvel that they cannot be seen.
gwynnega: (lordpeter mswyrr)

[personal profile] gwynnega 2008-02-20 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, what incredible images. My grandmother (also named Ida!) was sent back from Ellis Island the first time she came over as a teenager from Poland - but then she made the trip again (still a teenager) and they let her in...
gwynnega: (lordpeter mswyrr)

[personal profile] gwynnega 2008-02-20 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
A small farming town - I don't know the name, because my grandmother always insisted she was from Austria (and that she learned Polish at school in Austria!). But I've seen photos.

Her sisters also settled in Chicago with her, but her brothers (and her mother, too, I think) died in the camps.
gwynnega: (books poisoninjest)

[personal profile] gwynnega 2008-02-21 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure anyone knows where one of my great-grandfathers came from, beyond the immense generality of Russia

Yes, I know what you mean. I think my mother's father was from Minsk, but that's all I know about the pre-America part of his life.

Do you know their names?

Only their last name, which was Abend. I've seen photos of them, but I can't recall my grandmother or her sisters ever mentioning their lost family members by name.

[identity profile] paulamaclaurin.livejournal.com 2008-08-11 09:40 am (UTC)(link)
But I am trying to find some members of the family, in somewhere. Thank you very much and greetings, from C.

[identity profile] brooksharvel.livejournal.com 2008-08-11 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Com A&A Note: I am sorry to bother everyone, but I am trying to find out some history about my family Heritage in Czehsovakia.

[identity profile] daphnebinorden.livejournal.com 2008-08-11 03:04 pm (UTC)(link)
My grandmother had finished 8 grades at school, and then she learned to be a typist, while her brother became a technician at Videoton.

[identity profile] lemuelfreese.livejournal.com 2008-08-11 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
We have always been told she was Native American but having recently seen a photo of her I have doubts.

[identity profile] bunnybovun.livejournal.com 2008-08-03 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
No man has ever been able to say, or now can say, that he is before Webster. The youngest men in the nation look to him, not as representing the past, but as leading in the future.

[identity profile] rorynooue.livejournal.com 2008-08-11 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
They also provided blood samples and noted their depression, medications, medical history, and family history of memory problems.

[identity profile] emeseruthledge.livejournal.com 2008-08-11 06:57 pm (UTC)(link)
A complete assessment to determine 'probable' Alzheimer's requires: A complete medical history - and information provided by family and friends is needed to report the patients current ability to carry out daily activities.

[identity profile] elishadilmon.livejournal.com 2008-08-11 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
He then sent back for a wife and my grandmother came a year later. We parsed out that Jwan could be a version of Ivan and the ouskos the Lithuanian version of “son of” — so our difficult name is really Johnson.

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2008-02-20 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Winchester Mass?

Incredible.

Those photos are just breathtaking. I do see exactly what you mean by spirit photography....

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2008-02-21 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I can believe it, they do *seem* like doors and windows. You can just fall right into them, in your mind.

Actually, Winchester's not really any closer or farther away from here than Boston/Cambridge/Burlington--I think of them all as being about the same. *Sigh* if I do get over that way, I'll go take a look. (If the exhibit is still up.)

[identity profile] bryonfinacy.livejournal.com 2008-08-11 06:30 am (UTC)(link)
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[identity profile] chasemeisser.livejournal.com 2008-08-11 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
The contest runs through the end of March.   PressRelease/ - TEQUESTA, FL, January ≈ The Walker's Warehouse is excited to announce the launch of the 'Walk Fit Kit' Sweepstakes featuring a pair of MBT shoes and valued at over .

[identity profile] marynifug.livejournal.com 2008-07-16 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
( 8 ) Send this to a Friend Older Mosaic bicycle Newer Yesterday at Boing Boing Gadgets Discussion Take a look at this #1 posted by Joel Johnson , July 7, PM Man.

[identity profile] oscarmerilain.livejournal.com 2008-08-11 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
If these things go legal I'll buy a cherry picker and make a mint plucking the victims out of trees and peeling them off billboards.

[identity profile] antwanridke.livejournal.com 2008-08-11 02:38 pm (UTC)(link)
You'll have to go and see what I mean. . . But it makes you want to click on every section at least once.

[identity profile] nineweaving.livejournal.com 2008-02-20 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, they are stunning. My grandmother as well was an Ida.

Nine

[identity profile] nineweaving.livejournal.com 2008-02-20 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Those pictures go beautifully with The Arrival.

My other grandmother, Clara, came five or six years before there was an Ellis Island. I find that odd, as if she didn't properly arrive.

Nine

[identity profile] debka-notion.livejournal.com 2008-02-21 07:04 pm (UTC)(link)
I havea great grandmother on each side of the family (i.e. both my mother's and my father's- not on each side of Their families) named Ida, I think.

[identity profile] kristenoruqi.livejournal.com 2008-07-16 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
My mother named me after "John Lennon that wrote songs, painted, and baked bread with his son". She named me for the man, not the pop star.

[identity profile] yukihada.livejournal.com 2008-02-21 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
I'm glad you shared this. My great-grandparents and their first children came over through Ellis Island from Norway.

[identity profile] deliasherman.livejournal.com 2008-02-21 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
Ellis Island is not as ghostly-beautiful as it in these photos (for which, many thanks) now that it's been tarted up for the tourist trade. But it's still plenty haunted. The exhibit of things that people brought with them from their various Old Countries, donated by their descendents, is especially poignant.

Before Ellis Island was built, everyone was processed through Castle Clinton, in Battery Park. I saw an open-air production of Schiller's *Mary Stuart* there two summers ago--a remarkable experience.
seajules: Art by Susan Seddon Boulet (if i had wings)

[personal profile] seajules 2008-02-21 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
Those really are both haunted and haunting.

I don't know if there are any Ellis Islanders in my history. Everyone I know about came through Boston, except the ones who might have come up the Southern way.
seajules: (and west o' the moon)

[personal profile] seajules 2008-02-21 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, checking the pedigree charts, I lie. A lot of them were here before there was an Ellis Island, but Peter Olaf (from Sweden) came through Boston, and the Hutchisons (Scotland), and I think the Owens-Roberts (Wales) did, as well. As I understand it, that was the way most of the new converts to the LDS church came, and from there they were sent on, headed west.

To most, that meant Utah, Idaho, and Wyoming. In my family's case, that meant we hit water, pondered it a few decades, and some of us jumped across to Hawai'i. *G* I have a great-uncle and great-aunt who live there, but most of us are in the Oregon/Washington area. Except the branch that went up to Canada and spread. And we keep making forays into Alaska. And California, natch.

[identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com 2008-02-21 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
Those are incredible photographs. Thank you for sharing the link.

My great-grandmother Ida Friedman came to this country with a man who in some stories is her fiancé, in others her lover; all the way from Vishnevets in the Ukraine, but at Ellis Island he was sent back because of his health.

My father's grandfather's father's first (?) wife died on shipboard between Cóbh and New Orleans. I'm descended from his second wife, who's reported to have later walked out and left him with their children.

I don't think anyone in my family came through Ellis Island. It's a strangely incomplete feeling.