sovay: (Mr Palfrey: a prissy bastard)
sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2025-05-16 11:25 pm

She's changing her name from Kitty to Karen

I record-scratched out of this article on the signaling of political vibes early on with the assertion:

And in the 2010s, in online forums, fans of the TV show "Steven Universe" gave the word "coded" its modern meaning, talking about how cartoon characters could be "coded" as gay.

What modern meaning? "Queer-coded" as a phrase as well as a concept goes back to the '90's off the top of my head, meaning it's almost certainly older and predates by decades no matter what the internet fandom of Steven Universe (2013โ€“20), which may have popularized the academic usage but cannot have invented it. I'd have to check if it was part of Vito Russo's vocabulary, but Richard Barrios and Alexander Doty certainly used it. So did people I know. I am aware that shallow etymologies are least of the problems of the New York Times, but it is the sort of thing that I complain about on the internet because it is the sort of thing that will cause me to distrust the rest of the sourcing. More pleasant features of my evening included the first two episodes of Murderbot (2025โ€“) which [personal profile] spatch and I watched in a rare moment of synchronization with pop culture. I am also enjoying Elleston Trevor's The Big Pick-Up (1955) even though every time one of its soldier characters swears, I keep thinking the printable profanity of the '50's can't hold a candle to Her Privates We (1929).
scifirenegade: (kurt/paul)

[personal profile] scifirenegade 2025-05-17 06:41 am (UTC)(link)
???what???

(Russo used "coded references to [homosexuality] in The Celluloid Closet, bless OCR.)

Those books ๐Ÿ‘€
scifirenegade: (blep | marquis)

[personal profile] scifirenegade 2025-05-17 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
There we go!

That book is even referenced in Wikipedia! They could've gone to Wikipedia to get actual sources!
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[personal profile] selkie 2025-05-17 09:12 am (UTC)(link)
Well, that was a brisk record-scratch indeed. To say nothing of to code-switch, which probably goes back to all them queer AFABs working the steckers in the Second World War.
Hardly worth mopping the nightmare off my face for the Gray Lady these days!
(I am glad youโ€™re watching Murderbot together!)
sabotabby: cat flag from ofmd with the caption be gay do crime (our flag means death)

[personal profile] sabotabby 2025-05-17 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)
We should have been so much more careful when we let the internet read/watch The Celluloid Closet.
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[personal profile] troisoiseaux 2025-05-17 03:11 pm (UTC)(link)
...I swear that Steven Universe wasn't even the first time internet fandom (read: Tumblr) talked about queer-coding...?