You put your great ideas up your nose, then try to tell me where the fuck to go

[sovay]

I just wish to state for the record that it seems unnecessary that on the same day that our next-door neighbors break ground on their new driveway with all the requisite jackhammers and sleep-stopping dump trucks, I have to find out—like so many other friends and colleagues—that my work has been pirated by the plagiarism engines of Meta. Please send class action suits and an eighteen-pounder.

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[ethelmay]

I thought there was a class-action suit, and then it turned out to be information about an old one mistakenly getting reposted. Bah.

[sovay]

I thought there was a class-action suit, and then it turned out to be information about an old one mistakenly getting reposted. Bah.

As of earlier this month, Kadrey v. Meta still looks live.

[ethelmay]

Yeah, it looks as though several people, including me, got muddled. I hope no harm done in the end, and apologize for my part in the confusion.

[sovay]

Yeah, it looks as though several people, including me, got muddled. I hope no harm done in the end, and apologize for my part in the confusion.

Since it looks as though the originally linked e-mail addresses are still viable, I plan to write to them! No harm done and thank you for thinking of me.

[vintagewitch]

IDK if you have this information, but I was able to get contact information for the lawyers associated with Kadrey v. Meta

Joseph Saveri Law Firm, LLP (415) 500-6800
Mathew Butterick (323) 968-2632 mb@buttericklaw.com

Got the information from this post on BlueSky:

https://bsky.app/profile/meredithmooring.bsky.social/post/3lktgojfycs2r

And a more updated look at the case:

https://bsky.app/profile/meredithmooring.bsky.social/post/3lkts63ym422s

[sovay]

And a more updated look at the case

I'd seen the contact information in the first of your linked posts, but not the updated information in the second, which I appreciate you sharing!

[rydra_wong]

Yeah, as I understand it, that's live and as a "person or entity domiciled in the US" who holds copyright on something swept up in LibGen, you are automatically included in the class.

[asakiyume]

Holy cow, me too! I really thought I was under the radar of all this.

GREAT!! ANOTHER THING TO LOVE ABOUT THE CURRENT TIMELINE.

[sovay]

Holy cow, me too! I really thought I was under the radar of all this.

Balls! You should be on everyone's radar, but not extractive AI's!

GREAT!! ANOTHER THING TO LOVE ABOUT THE CURRENT TIMELINE.

I AM NOT ENJOYING NEARLY ALL RECENT DEVELOPMENTS.

[theseatheseatheopensea]

Ugh, Meta. It's unsurprising (but still really gross) to know that they are using shadow libraries for profit.

[sovay]

Ugh, Meta. It's unsurprising (but still really gross) to know that they are using shadow libraries for profit.

I was saying to spatch that I do not like my intellectual property being stolen, but really I don't like the theft of my art.

[troyswann]

Omg, me toooooooooo. Fuuuuuucking Meta. 🤬

FTR, I'm not so steamed about academic work being pirated, since our work is not about making the big bucks and the giant pub-mills have been getting free labour from us for decades. (It's a whoooole other rant) But the thought of Zuck scraping it illegally because it's "too expensive" for his multi-billion-dollar company to do it right, and then combining that with embedded sucky AI, it's just insult to insult to injury.

I am sorry that you got that AND jackhammers. Not acceptable.

[sovay]

Omg, me toooooooooo. Fuuuuuucking Meta.

Feh!

But the thought of Zuck scraping it illegally because it's "too expensive" for his multi-billion-dollar company to do it right, and then combining that with embedded sucky AI, it's just insult to insult to injury.

It is! I would not have wanted to give my consent to a plagiarism engine, but not even bothering to ask is contemptuously rude.

(I am entirely willing to listen to an academic extractive labor rant, just so you know.)

I am sorry that you got that AND jackhammers. Not acceptable.

Thank you. I had a streak of two whole nights of sleeping this week! I was looking forward to going for a third!

[ashlyme]

Bastards. They've hit a lot of friends of mine. Hitting back with jackhammers seems only fair. *Hugs*

[sovay]

Bastards. They've hit a lot of friends of mine. Hitting back with jackhammers seems only fair.

At this point I'm ready for howitzers.

*hugs*

[moon_custafer]

Searching my family name turns up a bunch of Dad’s books and academic papers (also some stuff by our cousins in the UK).

[sovay]

Searching my family name turns up a bunch of Dad’s books and academic papers (also some stuff by our cousins in the UK).

Blech.

(I feel I should ask you for your father's titles so I can legally buy one or something.)

[aurumcalendula]

Ugh. *hugs*

[sovay]

Ugh.

That!

*hugs*

[thomasyan]

wow. tried looking up lots of authors. yup, all represented.

tried looking up myself. nope, only another person or people with the same name. but my father, brother, and wife all show up.

[sovay]

tried looking up myself. nope, only another person or people with the same name. but my father, brother, and wife all show up.

My condolences to all of them!

[cyphomandra]

Argh, I expected the academic papers, but even though I only have three published stories Meta's also managed to slurp up one of them.

[sovay]

Argh, I expected the academic papers, but even though I only have three published stories Meta's also managed to slurp up one of them.

That is superfluously gross!

[nineweaving]

They've cannibalized all of Small Beer Press, gods rot them, so my books there are eaten.

Oddly, they haven't got Moonwise. It may be indigestible.

Now I'm trying to imagine an AI bot trained on my writing style. Good goddesses.

Nine

[sovay]

Oddly, they haven't got Moonwise. It may be indigestible.

Did it ever have an e-book? I am wondering if that accounts for some of the patterns I am seeing of what is and is not apparently in LibGen, although clearly not all.

[nineweaving]

Did it ever have an e-book?

Never.

I am wondering if that accounts for some of the patterns I am seeing of what is and is not apparently in LibGen, although clearly not all.

I was beginning to wonder if that is the pattern.

Nine

[ethelmay]

They've got my mother's first book, which has been up on the Internet Archive, but only as a scan. Whether they've been able to digest the text, who knows. (It exists in ebook form on my computer and a couple of other people's, but not yet, to my knowledge, elsewhere.)

[sovay]

They've got my mother's first book, which has been up on the Internet Archive, but only as a scan. Whether they've been able to digest the text, who knows.

I suppose one can always hope that an OCR threw some grit in the works.

[thisbluespirit]

Oh, no. I can't oblige with the proper ammunition, but: *shakes fist at the sky*

[sovay]

Oh, no. I can't oblige with the proper ammunition, but: *shakes fist at the sky*

Still appreciated!

[choco_frosh]

What.

I mean, that's one of these cases* where I'm simultaneously hit by shock, WTF, disgust, and a sense of "Oh yeah, of course that fucking happened."

* all-too-frequent, recently

(The icon is very apt.)

[sovay]

all-too-frequent, recently

It could decrease in frequency any time now.

*hugs*