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sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2025-02-20 10:52 pm

I write for you while you sleep

After three nights effectively sleepless, I finally slept almost ten hours and resent the absence from the Boston skyline of some of the architecture I dreamed about photographing. I don't know where this city would put more bridges, but it had them. I still feel I had visited the cobbled seaside plaza before.

Inspired by [personal profile] sholio, I re-read Byron Preiss, Michael Reaves and Joseph Zucker's Dragonworld (1979) for the first time in decades. I have a used paperback in storage, but actually can't remember when I acquired or first read this illustrated brick of a book, although its mental filing near Carol Kendall's The Gammage Cup (1959) and Margaret Weis and Tracy Hickman's The Death Gate Cycle (1990–94) suggests early high school. I had remembered it imperfectly and characteristically: I responded to the adventures of a reclusive inventor who starts heroically out of his depth trying to stop a war and escalates to finding himself on a quest for dragons and tuned out much of the war itself and the politicking around it.

Amsel was a small man, small and wiry, with a great explosion of white hair under a floppy hat, and a face that could claim any age from thirty to fifty. He was dressed in loose-fitting green and brown clothes, covered with pockets. In the pockets were all manner of things: a thong-bound parchment notebook, a quill pen which carried its own ink supply (Amsel's own invention), a lodestone, a small hammer (for chipping off interesting rock specimens), a small net of tanselweb (for capturing interesting insect specimens), and a pair of spectacles (also Amsel's invention). He believed in preparing for any eventuality.

It's an odd, ambitious, slightly stiff book; it reads at times like a novelization of a film that doesn't exist, presumably with creature effects by Jim Henson. As [personal profile] sholio points out, its secondary world would look a lot more normally Tolkienesque if it were more magical, but mostly it has dragons and related species, second sight, and an assortment of invented animals, vegetables, and minerals, of which my favorite is the gemstone equivalent of an alkali metal whose exothermic reaction to water has been harnessed for thermal airship technology. We were trying to think of other non-magical secondary worlds that are not stealth science fiction or alternate history and mostly I was coming up with Lloyd Alexander's Westmark and the volcano of Carol Kendall's Firelings, plus the edge case of Megan Whalen Turner's Little Peninsula. Am taking suggestions, especially if I have overlooked an obvious Frances Hardinge.

All of the news I have seen has been such that I am avoiding my other social media because I just don't want to read the takes. The eye-blurring headache appears to be separate, but I also resent it.
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[personal profile] vr_trakowski 2025-02-21 07:38 am (UTC)(link)
I was trying to think of books that matched your criteria, but I got off on a tangent. Have you ever read Ann Downer's "The Spellkey"? It's very much magical, but it might interest you. YA, orphan boy meets young witch-girl, adventures ensue.

It's actually a trilogy and probably easier found in the omnibus volume, but Downing rewrote bits of the first book in between, and frankly I think the original is better. The cover definitely is!
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[personal profile] yhlee 2025-02-22 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
The Spellkey is amazing and I think you'd love it. It involves changelings, a legacy of incest (which went completely over my head as a child), ergot, illumination, an odd-eyed witch, bells, and the magic of transcendence, among other things. Agreed that the original's better than the rewritten omnibus.
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[personal profile] thisbluespirit 2025-02-21 09:35 am (UTC)(link)
Glad you finally got some sleep! I am sorry Boston has hidden your dream bridges. Maybe they're just invisible?

That does sound like an interesting book!

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[personal profile] spiralsheep 2025-02-21 01:30 pm (UTC)(link)
IIRC the Emilie series by Martha Wells, which goodreads describes as a sort of girls' own Jules Verne adventure, fits your criteria:

https://www.goodreads.com/series/100628-emilie
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[personal profile] davidgillon 2025-02-21 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
After three nights effectively sleepless, I finally slept almost ten hours

Huzzah!
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[personal profile] selkie 2025-02-21 05:40 pm (UTC)(link)
The bridges sound interesting! I hope to see them in the next forty years!
HOWEVS, I must register my complaint about your headache.
(I have acquired for you a sticker, because they go in the post easily. Well, my id acquired it. But for you.)
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[personal profile] selkie 2025-02-21 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
We'll definitely have enough river for them! And channel. And harbor. And Seaport.
You know anthropogenic effect on sea level is a myth, Gentlethem.
*fourth-wall face*
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[personal profile] theseatheseatheopensea 2025-02-21 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
resent the absence from the Boston skyline of some of the architecture I dreamed about photographing. I don't know where this city would put more bridges, but it had them. I still feel I had visited the cobbled seaside plaza before.

This reminds me of The City & The City and places existing in the spaces between cities!

I'm glad there was sleep, and I hope the headache is gone! *hugs*
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[personal profile] pameladean 2025-02-21 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I vote for your dream bridges!

The description of Amsel made me think, "Ah, out of the White Knight by Albert Einstein." I don't know why that locution. I know very little about horses.

P.
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2025-02-23 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed! The more bridges the merrier!
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[personal profile] ethelmay 2025-02-23 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
I think Sayers or Allingham or someone uses that locution. I don't actually think it's either of them, but someone kind of like that, if you see what I mean.

Random tangential anecdote: a friend was once pontificating to me about Spinsters and Distaff Side and similar expressions that refer to women as primarily producers of thread, and I looked something up and found someone referring in all seriousness to the distaff side in horse breeding, which gave me a good laugh.
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[personal profile] minoanmiss 2025-02-21 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)

I am so glad you got some sleep.

I know I've read other non-magical secondary worlds, but the only one I can think of right now is Richard Adams' Shardik and Maia,.

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[personal profile] yhlee 2025-02-22 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I think some individual parts of K. J. Parker's fantasies might count, although some parts of them in a loosely connected fictive history do seem to have some kind of magic in them.
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[personal profile] minoanmiss 2025-02-23 01:45 am (UTC)(link)

I don't think I'd rec those two books. The worldbuilding was inventive but the author's turgid id kept showing through.

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[personal profile] asakiyume 2025-02-23 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
We were trying to think of other non-magical secondary worlds --I am writing stories in one ;-) ... But in terms of more established titles, I am enjoying what everyone is mentioning.

I don't know where this city would put more bridges, but it had them. --This got me imagining a city that could unfold bridges like a fan from a central point.

with a great explosion of white hair under a floppy hat, and a face that could claim any age from thirty to fifty. --This made me laugh because I'm thinking that for an explosion of white hair, fifty is a more usual bottom age limit? Though some people do go white early. Or maybe in Amsel's world, white is a hair color for people of all ages.
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[personal profile] ethelmay 2025-02-23 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
I suppose it means the face independent of the hair, but I agree the juxtaposition is clumsy. Needs a "despite" or some equivalent pointer.
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2025-02-23 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
And if it does mean the face independent of the hair, does it mean that indeed, Amsel is someone who got white hair early? Or is he an older person, but with a youngish face? (Not that this matters! It's an arresting description regardless! But it did make me muse more than maybe it intended. Or maybe it intended precisely this amount of musing!)
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2025-02-23 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
*nodding*

Older person with a youngish face was what I imagined. I have known one person who did go very white in their thirties, a man. And maybe it's all down to Einstein, but we definitely imagine (well... I definitely imagine) the dandelion-clock of white hair as going with a mentally adventurous, imaginative person.

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