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sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2024-07-30 06:13 am

My heart is lying where the seeds are blown

I am trying to examine my very hard recoil from Angela Leighton's "Phoenician." Much of it may boil down to the author's self-acknowledged appropriation of the grimacing terracotta mask for the purposes of modern metaphor, since there is little archaeological reason to believe these itemsβ€”mass-produced in Carthage, often discovered in graves of Phoenician cities and colonies around the coastline of the Mediterraneanβ€”were employed in so grotesque a fashion as the poet depicts:

Hard to relate if they burned their children alive

all smiling, smiling in masks to pleasure a god
who'd thus not see their terror or hear their cries

but accept the sacrifice: the life's soft parts
disguised by that hard laughter baked to last.


The poem is devastatingly effective on its own terms, sardonic and brutal as its key icon. But isn't it painful enough to imagine the willingness to reduce one's own children, generation after generation, to a tophet of calcined bones? Does it have to be envisioned with a flamboyant cruelty out of Flaubert? Of course the poem wraps around to the recognition that we in the present day sanction the deaths of children by fire from no higher moral ground than the ancient civilization we comfortably disparage, masking the horror for ourselves with euphemisms instead of blood-kilned clay, but then it isn't our children burning in the poem, is it?

(Their alphabet is ours).

Collateral. (Think β€” a smokescreen.) Are we blind, by half?
The drones we make explode elsewhere in fires.


I know it doesn't matter to the metaphor, the indictment of hypocrisy: that so long as something screens the eye from the truth of children dying in agony, we have no compunctions about stoking the fires. But it matters to the history. Without relitigating the evidence of the tophets, Carthage deployed as the metonym for human sacrifice twinges with me because it is so much a part of the Greek and Roman filter which we inherit just as surely as the transformations of the Phoenician alphabet, that ultimately Other city in the irresistible binaries of east/west female/male barbarity/civilization which mythologically exists for its own destruction by which the inevitability of empire may be upheld. As if we could have come by this propensity for blood-guilt through no other tradition, as if in reaching back from A to 𐀀 we wouldn't stumble over the bodies of gladiators, offered just as urbanely to the di manes instead of 𐀕𐀍𐀕 𐀐𐀍 𐀁𐀏𐀋 and 𐀁𐀏𐀋 π€‡π€Œπ€. Go back beyond aleph and you can sort through the smashed skulls of the retainers of Ur. In full disclosure, I have written more than one Carthaginian poem myself and most of them at least allude to this question. The author writes gorgeously about the ancient world and is no doubt aware of every relevant point about the prevalence of human sacrifice within it. I am just left agreeing with the poem that whatever we define as civilization has never precluded what we decry as uncivilized and still feeling it does itself no favors with the invented monstrosity of its comparison. Besides, while I recognize it misses what I interpret as the political impetus for the poem, we have never needed to look elsewhere for the licensed deaths of children. In this country, the cover-up is thoughts and prayers.
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[personal profile] mrissa 2024-07-30 11:09 am (UTC)(link)
But it matters to the history.

YES.

Yes to all this.
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[personal profile] minoanmiss 2024-07-30 12:30 pm (UTC)(link)

Yeah, I totally see what you mean here.

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[personal profile] thistleingrey 2024-07-30 02:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes.
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[personal profile] movingfinger 2024-07-30 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I started reading that one, and then WHAT? WHAT? It is not a good poem, imo.

If she needs people sacrificing their (own) children, school shootings are RIGHT THERE.
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[personal profile] elisem 2024-07-30 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
*nodding in agreement*
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2024-07-30 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I've thought about this post and poem on and off all day.

I am just left agreeing with the poem that whatever we define as civilization has never precluded what we decry as uncivilized and still feeling it does itself no favors with the invented monstrosity of its comparison.

--I agree with this. Some horrors need no metaphors, and straining to make one that is even more horrifying than the realities seems wrong. Almost sadistic. As if it's not enough for children to die and be killed in the many cruel ways they do, as if you've got to create some extra sauce of horror to put on top of it and then be upset at THAT.
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[personal profile] moon_custafer 2024-07-31 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been trying to remember where else I've seen that type of Phoenician mask, and I realized this morning that it must have inspired the one Benedick wears in this scene in the 1993 Much Ado About Nothing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=I8xhJ8YUbzI
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[personal profile] moon_custafer 2024-07-31 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Funny, up till now I’d thought it looked a bit like Robin Williams, and since Branagh had worked with him in Dead Again, wondered if it might be an in-joke of some kind.
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[personal profile] dhampyresa 2024-07-31 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Carthage deployed as the metonym for human sacrifice twinges with me because it is so much a part of the Greek and Roman filter which we inherit just as surely as the transformations of the Phoenician alphabet, that ultimately Other city in the irresistible binaries of east/west female/male barbarity/civilization which mythologically exists for its own destruction by which the inevitability of empire may be upheld. As if we could have come by this propensity for blood-guilt through no other tradition, as if in reaching back from A to 𐀀 we wouldn't stumble over the bodies of gladiators, offered just as urbanely to the di manes instead of 𐀕𐀍𐀕 𐀐𐀍 𐀁𐀏𐀋 and 𐀁𐀏𐀋 π€‡π€Œπ€.

The way Carthage is written (about) sometimes strikes as quite reminiscent of blood libel, if that makes sense.