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sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2024-01-24 05:51 pm

I beg your pardon if it wasn't this obvious

I have been enjoying David Cairns' film criticism for at least a decade, but I was catching up on his latest installment on Chaplin's A King in New York (1957) and the record scratch of his sign-off stopped me cold:

Also, it never occurred to me before, but looking at Sid's frizzy hair, I wonder if he was mixed race. Though his broad nose is probably the result of his failed boxing career rather than genetics.

My dude, Sid James was born Solomon Joel Cohen. Have you never seen a Jewfro in your life? I'm not saying there's not precedent for confusion—Mezz Mezzrow in Really the Blues (1946) credited his own "nappy" Ashkenazi hair for getting him successfully transferred to the Black side of Riker's after his arrest for possession of a stupendous number of joints at the 1940 New York World's Fair—I am most definitely not saying that Black and mixed-race Jews don't exist, but I am saying that in this case no passing narrative is needed to explain the frizz unless you count the name change, which I doubt anybody does. (Please hold for my household's inevitable quotation of Sesame Street: "I am the Count. They call me the Count because I love to count things!" – "Wonderful! I'm Guy Smiley. They call me Guy Smiley because I changed my name from Bernie Liederkrantz!") It's just such a weird thing to speculate on when the information is out there. I don't have that hair, but I sure know people who do.
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[personal profile] liv 2024-01-25 10:29 am (UTC)(link)
I have been lots and lots of people's First! Ever! Jewish person!, and that's just the ones who make a point to tell me so. The first time I remember was my kindergarten teacher, and my memories are pretty fuzzy before that.

It's a pretty normal part of the Jewish experience in the UK outside London and a couple of other urban centres – last year I had a whole bar mitzvah class who all reported being the first real live Jewish person their various teachers had met (they all go to different schools), and being put on the spot to explain stuff.

FWIW I am pretty Ashkenazi in appearance but not in a way that's obvious to people who hold vague ethnic stereotypes, since I have slightly wavy light brown hair and that's what people tend to notice.
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[personal profile] minoanmiss 2024-01-25 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)

"I wonder if it's a weird thought to me because I've just never had the option of not meeting non-Jews."

This was definitely my reaction in high school when I got "I've never met a Negro before" AND watching my roommate get "I've never met a Jew before". By col;ege I was resigned to it.