sovay: (Morell: quizzical)
sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2023-12-14 03:04 pm

Thinking of ways I could lie to you and not lose you

I understand from both context and the body of the e-mail that the eye-catching subject header "The story Oppenheimer won't tell you" is referring to the film and specifically to its elision of the existence of the Downwinders—whose concerns, long before they were designated by name, were flagged well within the timeline of the movie and whose survivors and still-affected descendants are in current danger of losing their compensation for nothing more than the government of cruelty which has become the point of the Republican Party—but because no quotation marks are placed around the name, it really does sound like the non-profit which sent the e-mail has just run out of patience for Oppie's caginess, which did also happen to people in history.
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[personal profile] kore 2023-12-15 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I disliked that film for many reasons, but a big one was the elision as you say of the actual victims -- which did include civilians in New Mexico who had no idea what was going on and weren't told until long after. And as someone who grew up in New Mexico during the Cold War boy I got tired of people thinking "they tested the Bomb in New Mexico because nobody was living there." The old myth of the West as empty space. Which the film perpetuates, when Oppenheimer says something like there's only "Indian" burial grounds where they want to build Los Alamos (and of course they had to shoot in Abiquiu). https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/oppenheimer-story-behind-those-who-lost-their-land-lab-2023-07-28/

(I haven't read the giant book it's based on so IDK if the author ignores the forced relocation, or if that was Nolan's interpolation or what.)
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[personal profile] mrissa 2023-12-15 11:52 am (UTC)(link)
And they even could have used Isidor Rabi in the movie to counterbalance that, because THAT man was garrulous enough from what I hear from Phil Morrison (himself...not the least talkative). Weird.
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[personal profile] tommx 2023-12-15 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Hello there. I found your journal through a friend of friend rabbit hole. Having read some of your public posts, I feel like you might be someone with whom I would like to be acquainted. May I add you to my friends list?

When my father first told me about the bombing at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, he made sure I knew all about the lingering effects on the Downwinders.

I'm genuinely surprised that Josh Hawley is named as someone who objected to the removal of the NDAA. A broken clock is right twice a day, I guess.