sovay: (Lord Peter Wimsey)
sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2020-08-13 02:59 am

A word can suggest my likeness as a painting suggests distance

The weather remains, technically speaking, too darn hot. Have a lot of links.

1. Courtesy of [personal profile] shewhomust: the Pineapple. I feel confident in saying that I find little to admire in a late eighteenth-century colonial governor of Virginia and the Bahamas, except that on his return home to Scotland he built himself a two-storey Gothic stone pineapple and it's hilarious. I was unable to think about it without laughing for at least a day after learning about it. I keep trying to imagine the reactions of the unknown architect confronted with such a commission. It is a national treasure in both the official and colloquial senses of the word. If I lived in the right country to stay in it, I would.

2. Courtesy of [personal profile] isis: "Know your Hrvatski from your Old Norse?" As it turns out, I do, as well as my Russian from my Tok Pisin, but I was wrong about the language with the most native speakers and had no idea about High Valyrian. I appreciate deeply that if you answer the question about Polari right, the quiz briefly takes on the personality of Julian or Sandy.

3. Courtesy of looking for contemporary Burmese fiction and poetry: the complete time sink of the archives of the University of Iowa's International Writing Program. Now I have an even longer list of books I wish I could afford.

4. The title may as well stand as a content warning, but I loved this short story: S. Qiouyi Lu's "As Dark as Hunger."

5. I had never seen the beautiful autochromes taken of Christina Bevan in 1913 and in fact had no idea that a photographic process based on potato starch had ever existed.

6. Nor had I realized that the question of what happened with Orson Welles' unfinished film of Charles Williams' Dead Calm (1963) was actually kind of a rabbit hole. I would have watched a sea-thriller with that cast. The HFA could have screened it last fall for their all-night marathon of dark waters that I was too ill to stay for more than the first film of, which I still resent.

7. I may never see the musical remake of Goodbye, Mr. Chips (1969), but I am really charmed by the technical notes from the headmaster of its filming location, Sherborne School: "I was last at Paestum when Katherine and Chips were there, so I have only vague memories. Can it be visited the same day as Pompeii? Are there broken pillars? Is it a temple of Apollo? Is the inscription there? I assume you will check the spelling in Greek, of 'Gnothe Seauton'. This anglicised form contains one mistake."

8. Just in case anyone has not seen the recent proof-of-concept: "Low-cost measurement of facemask efficacy for filtering expelled droplets during speech."

9. I had not read this sonnet before: Hartley Coleridge, "Long Time a Child."

I have been re-reading Sayers when I can't sleep—the Harriet Vane novels, specifically. My body is behaving in ways that are cranking my dysphoria up to eleven in addition to ordinarily hurting and there are a couple of things in these books that are not exactly consoling, but are useful for me to be reminded of. It is an unexpected side effect.
cmcmck: (Default)

[personal profile] cmcmck 2020-08-13 08:27 am (UTC)(link)
Too darn hot here to with attendant cloudbursts!
rmc28: Rachel in hockey gear on the frozen fen at Upware, near Cambridge (Default)

[personal profile] rmc28 2020-08-13 09:11 am (UTC)(link)

It was so hot yesterday my fitbit thought I was actively exercising for 10+ hours! No, I was just existing in Too Much Heat.

Today it just started raining Quite Hard with thunderstorms.

Edit: forgot to mention that the Pineapple looks amazing, so much so that I went far enough to see whether we could get there by public transport (answer: only with a lot of walking, hmm).

Edited 2020-08-13 09:15 (UTC)
rmc28: Rachel in hockey gear on the frozen fen at Upware, near Cambridge (Default)

[personal profile] rmc28 2020-08-13 06:17 pm (UTC)(link)

It is distinctly cooler and my fitbit and I agree how much exercise I've done today :-)

shewhomust: (mamoulian)

[personal profile] shewhomust 2020-08-13 10:41 am (UTC)(link)
We had similar results to yours on the quiz (was misled over the 'most native speakers' question by a vague memory that English no longer tops the list. Which is true, but not relevant.) What does it say about the setter that they ask about High Valyrian but not Sindarin?
asakiyume: created by the ninja girl (Default)

[personal profile] asakiyume 2020-08-13 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
What does it say about the setter that they ask about High Valyrian but not Sindarin? --Probably that they're simply remembering the Last Big Thing instead of the More Enduring Big Thing. Interestingly, the two conlangs Duolingo offers are Klingon and High Valyrian--when they could offer Quenya or Sindarin!
asakiyume: created by the ninja girl (Default)

[personal profile] asakiyume 2020-08-13 06:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Re: your edit--yeah! (That one I took a blind guess on and guessed lucky)
choco_frosh: (Default)

[personal profile] choco_frosh 2020-08-13 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
13/20. Things I got wrong: Theriake, 1947, Tumbledown Dick's Insta, Most native speakers (derp), gras bilong fes (turning grey), Athra'akia, and 6 years before Hammersley.
ethelmay: (Default)

[personal profile] ethelmay 2020-08-14 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
I can say "A star shines on the hour of our meeting," and I can call out "Friend!" But neither is exactly "hello."
shewhomust: (mamoulian)

[personal profile] shewhomust 2020-08-14 10:35 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair, I'm not sure that I know how to say hello in Sindarin, either.

There's a passage in his Letters where Tolkien describes The Lord of the Rings as "an attempt to create a situation in which a common greeting would be 'elen síla lúmenn' omentielmo'". (It does come up in the book, but this is the context from which I remember it!)
asakiyume: created by the ninja girl (Default)

[personal profile] asakiyume 2020-08-13 12:57 pm (UTC)(link)
The language quiz was fun!

What prompted you to look for contemporary Burmese fiction and poetry?

The Lulworth Cove photos are so *modern looking*

[personal profile] anna_wing 2020-08-14 08:06 am (UTC)(link)
There are so many WWI autochromes (and that was fascinating in itself, I had never heard of them before, and they're so beautiful! I wonder if anyone is actually using that technique now?) on that Twitter. They are astounding. There's at least one with a whole lot of soldiers from the colonies as well, both in Africa and in Asia.

[personal profile] anna_wing 2020-08-14 09:39 am (UTC)(link)
I've just been looking at the modern autochromes. I agree, it's wonderful that people want to revive it. The fact that the image can't be manipulated at all gives the photographer some interesting parameters to work within.
Edited 2020-08-14 09:46 (UTC)
nodrog: (Great World War)

Speaking of tourist attractions

[personal profile] nodrog 2020-08-13 01:00 pm (UTC)(link)

I was reading just the other day that the Western Front of the Great War is a tourist attraction now, which bothers some people.

But more, that it always was:  Thomas Cook took tourists on package tours of the Front during the War (!!), and only stopped in 1915 when the French got hot about it!

nodrog: (auto_da_fe)

Re: Speaking of tourist attractions

[personal profile] nodrog 2020-08-14 03:16 am (UTC)(link)

I apologize for distracting from the original post, but yes, for a "world war" this one was very cosy.  Boat-trains being what they were, officers who had dined at their club could be sitting in trench dugouts the next day.  Civilians on the Channel coast could hear the heavy guns of a bombardment across the water, and when those colossal mines exploded at Messines they rattled the windows at No. 10 Downing Street.  It was a family quarrel, at such close range and viciousness as those so often are.

(Trivial Pursuit® :  Twenty-one mine shafts were dug, but only nineteen mines went off.  In 1955 one more detonated with earthquake force; the last one has not yet exploded.  No one is willing to probe for it even with geosonar - that might be all it takes…

Updated, literally - With Beirut force - each one of those mines was about on that scale. Nineteen Beiruts going off all at once - yes, that would jolt some seismograph pens!  The Germans were horrified - they'd been outdone at chemical frightfulness, and they didn't forget it.  Can you say, Flammenwerfer? (“It werfs Flammen.”)

Edited 2020-08-14 03:29 (UTC)

[personal profile] anna_wing 2020-08-13 01:43 pm (UTC)(link)
U Pe Myint is currently the Myanmar Union Minister for Information. 'Union' refers to the central government in Nay Payi Taw rather than regional governments.

[personal profile] anna_wing 2020-08-14 08:03 am (UTC)(link)
Just bio info. The current Myanmar government is civilian and democratically elected, if that is an issue.
lauradi7dw: (Default)

[personal profile] lauradi7dw 2020-08-13 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)
2. 13/20, but what a biased group of languages. The indigenous languages of entire continents (like ours, Africa, and Asia) are not represented, but two choices from Papua New Guinea? (I got moustache right).
6. I have seen Dead Calm, not to be confused with the X-files episode Død Kalm, which I have also seen.
8. I had seen that, and had also seen some skeptical responses on twitter. My immediate reaction to the part about neck gaiters being worse than nothing was scoffing as well. That's what I wear to run (specifically, one with John Snow's cholera map printed on it). It definitely holds in water vapor and snot, but of course I can't see aerosolized particles to be able to tell if they are getting out while all those body fluids stay next to my face.

DLS have you read The Mutual Admiration Society? https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/44287172-the-mutual-admiration-society
I could loan you a copy, but I'd want it back, as it's autographed and the author is a friend.
lauradi7dw: (Default)

[personal profile] lauradi7dw 2020-08-14 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Dead Calm
I don't remember why I saw it - I'm not usually a horror fan. It started out with tragedy, there was a lot of very tense stuff. But I was convinced that the central couple found catharsis and would do well together after a lot of bad experiences.

I could be under the influence of "seems like" (seems like if droplets are stopped, tinier particles should be as well). Or the findings might not be replicated in further studies.
Of interest - if there is aerosol transmission, why isn't it as contagious as measles, for example. There is so much that we don't know. https://api.nationalgeographic.com/distribution/public/amp/science/2020/08/what-airborne-coronavirus-means-and-how-to-protect-yourself-cvd?
Also, what we don't know, specifically about choirs
https://www.pri.org/stories/2020-08-13/choirs-age-coronavirus-new-study-looks-risks-singing?
isis: (Default)

[personal profile] isis 2020-08-13 07:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I've seen a good article about the mask study pointing out it's NOT a comparative study of masks, but a proof-of-concept of a protocol for TESTING masks. For one thing they had a single person saying a test sentence into each mask, which is not a good range of either testers or testing. The upshot is, don't take what it says about neck gaiters as gospel meaning "these are bad" yet.
ethelmay: (Default)

[personal profile] ethelmay 2020-08-14 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
And apparently that person was loud and a "spitter" (not necessarily visible spit, but producing more droplets than the average). The FB post I saw about it snarked, "Probably the PI [principal investigator, i.e., lead researcher on the grant project]," which made me laugh.
gwynnega: (Basil Rathbone)

[personal profile] gwynnega 2020-08-13 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
The Pineapple is hilarious. Those autochromes are beautiful and so contemporary looking. I had never read anything by Hartley Coleridge before!

I love the Harriet Vane novels.
selkie: (Default)

[personal profile] selkie 2020-08-14 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Is it possible they removed him from his post because he wasn’t horrible ENOUGH? I haven’t had the fortitude to look.

[personal profile] anna_wing 2020-08-14 09:27 am (UTC)(link)
Just read "Long Time A Child". A very pointed bit of work for the middle-aged! The bit about manhood being painted on his cheek struck me as a reference to theatrical, rather than women's make-up (would a decent woman of that era been wearing visible make-up anyway?), and adulthood as a performance. It actually made me think of the ending of "The Tempest".
ethelmay: (Default)

[personal profile] ethelmay 2020-08-14 04:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought it just meant that he started needing to shave, and the image was of nature as a painter gradually changing an image, not the person being someone who painted themselves.
ethelmay: (Default)

[personal profile] ethelmay 2020-08-14 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Incidentally, I think the obscurity of the word "rathe" spoils the effect a bit. I don't personally find it one of those words that's evocative in itself even if you don't quite know what it means.
ethelmay: (Default)

[personal profile] ethelmay 2020-08-14 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
It made me think of "mome raths outgrabe," and then the E on the end of "rathe" started looking all wrong (mome rathes outgrab?), and my mind's bobbin thread snarled.

I have just discovered that Thomas Hardy wrote
"And now comes Einstein with a notion —
Not yet quite clear
To many here —
That's there's no time, no space, no motion,
Nor rathe nor late,
Nor square nor straight,
But just a sort of bending-ocean."

Probably neither great poetry nor great physics, but it has a certain charm.

[personal profile] anna_wing 2020-08-15 10:44 am (UTC)(link)
That's rather fabulous, actually. One thinks of Hardy as Victorian, but he died in 1928.

[personal profile] anna_wing 2020-08-15 10:41 am (UTC)(link)
That would work too!