sovay: (Viktor & Mordecai)
sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote 2019-06-07 12:09 am (UTC)

Did you see this, in a comment to Rabbi Danya's thread?

I did; she actually included it in her original thread. The core of their argument seems to rest on this assertion—

"The 'Jewish Pride Flag' seemed to only rise in popularity after the Chicago Dyke March – it was never a flag that we felt directly connected to, and it does not represent all Jewish Dykes. The flag is a Star of David placed in the center, superimposed over a rainbow flag, and is almost entirely reminiscent of the Israeli flag, swapping out the blue and white for a rainbow. The star of David itself only became publicly popular as a symbol of Judaism in the 19th century – it coincided with the First Zionist Congress choosing the six-sided star for the flag of the future Israeli nation state in 1897."

—where the one part I do not contest is that the authors of the article never felt directly connected to the Jewish pride flag and that it does not represent all Jewish dykes. I have no reason not to believe either of those facts. I am afraid my response is, that's nice? I don't feel especially connected to the flag myself, but that doesn't mean I'll ignore the historical record to keep other people from carrying it. As to everything else, the pre-Zionist history of the Star of David has already been covered by Rabbi Ruttenberg and, at the time of the Chicago Dyke March, Bogi Takács. I've seen at least one tweet observing that the Jewish pride flag is in fact neither a rainbow Israeli flag nor an Israeli pride flag (which is an official thing, who knew). The six-pointed blue star on a background of rainbow stripes has been around since at least 2006, including on the Pride page of the Jewish Women's Archive since 2010; other Jewish pride flags have also been in play since long before the Chicago Dyke March. So their information is wrong, and since it is that information which they offer as proof of the D.C. Dyke March's radical inclusivity rather than zero-sum exclusion, I don't buy it.

It seems particularly odd to single out the Star of David as Israeli-specific on a day that we saw repeated images of it over USian graves in Normandy (mixed among all those crosses).

I bet that's because you care about history as history, not just as a handy bludgeon.

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