sovay: (Rotwang)
sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2006-07-10 10:21 pm

And most wickedly I did as I sailed

Just got back from seeing Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest with my family. I realize that I am building up a positive backlog of posts that must be made about this, that, or the other, but I must here take a moment to say:

DAVY JONES' SAILORS.

DUDE.

Whatever the flaws of the overall film, that entire thread just made me smile. Stellan Skarsgård's Bootstrap Bill plays right into one of my favorite character obsessions, and if someone was going to fuse the legends of Davy Jones and the Flying Dutchman (not to mention Koschei the Deathless), this was actually quite a good way. It's the combination of metamorphosis—so long under sea that the sea has changed them into itself, like something out of Patricia McKillip or Caitlín R. Kiernan—and moral compromise, tarnish and sea-change. As [livejournal.com profile] matociquala might say: kicked me right in the squid.

Er. So to speak.

[identity profile] stillsostrange.livejournal.com 2006-07-11 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
Mmm...squid.

I am really stupidly in love with that Davey Jones.

[identity profile] stillsostrange.livejournal.com 2006-07-11 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
Someone who really can handle folklore is writing these scripts.

Yes. When Dalma says that all the stories are true, I nearly applauded.

[identity profile] stillsostrange.livejournal.com 2006-07-11 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yes. I have to write my tragic squid love story before our suspicians are confirmed in the third movie. :)

Maybe one day I'll get a deep one story that doesn't end tragically. Fish need love too.

[identity profile] cucumberseed.livejournal.com 2006-07-11 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Tia Dalma, I did like, I will give the film that.

[identity profile] movingfinger.livejournal.com 2006-07-11 06:20 am (UTC)(link)
I suspect you like (at least parts of) Sean Stewart's Galveston.

[identity profile] ex-greythist387.livejournal.com 2006-07-11 07:03 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for this, which gets neatly around the problems I was having without increasing or decreasing their potential verity.

:D

I did like the sailors, and I'd managed to bury that....

[identity profile] clarionj.livejournal.com 2006-07-11 01:24 pm (UTC)(link)
While others are mooning over Captain Jack, there you are imagining squid kisses? Heh, I like that. (I believe I'm responding to further comments below actually, but ...)

The movie definitely made me want to do some research on Davy Jones. You have a lot of the sea in your poems and stories--has any of this folklore appeared in them?

[identity profile] yukihada.livejournal.com 2006-07-11 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I was struck as well. I kept repeating the words a great sea change to myself.
I was definately reminiscing about Something Rich and Strange while watching the film...I kept wanting to turn to someone and point this out but no one with me had read the book. Most of my friends were more interested in pointing out possible ships (yes the puns) in a pirate film. So I am glad you brought it up.

[identity profile] yukihada.livejournal.com 2006-07-12 02:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yes The Changeling Sea was the first book I read by Ms. McKillip. I have a sudden desire to reread both books now. I wish they weren't packed away for the moment.

Yes, she is a siren for the sea. I want to drown in the sea she creates, no matter how dangerous and sinister its beauty. I find myself like Peri longing for the Sea Prince, although as an adult I can love the magician more than I did as a young girl first reading the tale.