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sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2018-06-04 03:18 am

Protection, I'm giving you up—correction, I'm saying that I'm right enough

Carrie Rickey's "Hollywood: Where Jews Don't Get to Play Jews" is a very good article about exactly the phenomenon the title describes: the venerable Hollywood tradition of casting non-Jews to play Jewish characters, of which the flipside is all the Jewish actors you wouldn't know from their changed names. She calls it "Hollywood's Jewish Paradox" and ties it to anti-Semitism and the Production Code, Henry Ford and Joseph Breen, the Jewish studio moguls' fears of the perception of undue Jewish influence. It's part of the reason The Ten Commandments (1956) is such a surreal experience and Out of the Fog (1941) stings so badly and I remain grateful and amazed that a movie like The Heart of New York (1932) even exists. I recommend reading. There's just one point I wish she had articulated a little more:

It may seem counterintuitive, but Darryl F. Zanuck, the one Gentile studio chief, was committed to making films about Jews.

I have noted the issue before and I am hardly the first to feel it: that part of being accepted as a Jew in a majority non-Jewish society is not talking about anti-Semitism. Agree it's a problem when disinterested goyische parties point it out. Otherwise it's that special pleading that Breen complained about with Crossfire (1947), it's playing the Holocaust card, it's stealing attention from really marginalized people. So it's not counterintuitive at all. It was safe for Zanuck to make movies about Jews because he wasn't one of them. He wouldn't be accused of tribalism, of exploiting his control of Hollywood to advance his people's agenda. He could rock the boat without being ascribed ulterior motives. Rickey alludes to these forces earlier in her article: "Given this charged atmosphere, no Jewish mogul wanted to make his studio, his movies or his religion a target for attacks. Jewish producers worried that movies about Jews would incite anti-Semitism. Thus Jews as Jews on screen were almost invisible, and Jews played by non-Jews scarcely less so." I just wish she'd drawn the link to the latitude afforded Zanuck—and non-Jewish actors, playing ideas of Jewishness with no danger of being reduced to the real thing—a little more strongly. I mean I still want to have seen Defiance (2008) with Jason Isaacs. The next person who tells me that Call Me by Your Name (2017) wasn't groundbreaking had better have a list of big, sweeping, non-Holocaust, non-Orthodox, non-tragic queer Jewish romances to back it up.
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2018-06-04 02:02 pm (UTC)(link)
part of being accepted as a Jew in a majority non-Jewish society is not talking about anti-Semitism.

Yes: the majority (as an abstract whole, obviously there are always some #notall cases) never likes to be criticized and never likes to acknowledge its wrongs.

The majority demands certain terms of engagement, and those terms, unsurprisingly, tend to maintain the status quo and neutralize anything even remotely threatening.
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2018-06-04 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I only just saw that ruling now. Profoundly depressing.
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[personal profile] gwynnega 2018-06-04 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I will probably spend the rest of my life discovering that various Hollywood actors who changed their names were Jewish. (Only last week did I learn Hedy Lamarr was Jewish.) Oddly enough, when my mom used to do phone work in the seventies, she called herself "Garfield" just like John Garfield did!
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[personal profile] muccamukk 2018-06-04 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Zanuck also had a habit of wandering around acting like he was the first person on Earth to have considered that anti-Semitism was a thing, in conversation with his Jewish co-workers, which I'm surprised didn't get him murdered in his bed (I'm not actually surprised, but STILL...)

Everyone mostly seems busy freaking out about how CMbYN is paedophilia somehow. I need to get around to seeing it.
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[personal profile] niqaeli 2018-06-04 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I wonder a lot what we might have had without the Code, but I find I'm never sure how right those in Hollywood who thought that if they didn't self-censor they were going to be dealing with an unmanageable nightmare of 50 different state censorship boards all with different standards (they were already dealing with something like 11 at the time), and perhaps a federal censorship board to boot, were.

And -- even if they were right, would that really have been worse? How much worse? I mean, we're never going to know, because they did what they did and then handed over the gatekeys to fucking Joseph Breen. But I have a hard time even imagining what film-making would have looked like in this country if they'd never implemented it so effectively.

My feelings on Joseph Breen are, as I suspect you sympathise, unprintable; not because I would censor myself, but because I can't actually articulate my rage into words.
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[personal profile] ethelmay 2018-06-04 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh. I'd have thought a lot of people would just have assumed Zanuck was Jewish anyway. At least it's not a name that screams "Gentile" to me, but that may just be my ignorance.
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[personal profile] muccamukk 2018-06-04 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I know that the boardroom scene was almost word for word. I'm less sure about the secretary, but I would not be surprised. He must have been fun to work with!

I need to see it. There are so few gay movies at all, let alone period ones with happy endings. Haven't been watching much lately.
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[personal profile] muccamukk 2018-06-04 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
It's better, or Work Safe thinks it is anyway. I mean, I was off for three weeks, so I COULD have watched movies, but what I DID was watch Band of Brothers 5 consecutive times and write a lot of fan fic, lol.

I did see Race, which was... certainly interesting and oddly Canadian.
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[personal profile] muccamukk 2018-06-04 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a biopic of Jesse Owens, focusing on the 1936 Olympics. The cast was good (a bunch of no-name Canadians plus Jeremy Irons hired to be morally ambiguous). I'm not sure how I feel about the portrayal of Leni Riefenstahl, who seems have had her antagonism with Goebbels played up in order to sanitise her? A bit? It was otherwise fine, standards sports pic.

I also saw the one where Gregory Peck gets amnesia (no the other one), which was very silly. Mirage?
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[personal profile] batdina 2018-06-04 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm fascinated. I have a lot of movies to watch.

As an aside here, I once upon a time taught an elective at a Jewish high school on Jews on television. Starting in the 90s, give or take, Jews did start playing Jews. Numbers is a great example in that all three Jews in the central family were played by Jews. Homicide, and then Law and Order (same roll, same actor) is another.

On the other hand, I've had a variation on the drinking game called "Judaism: Good or Ill. I take a whatever every time there's a "Jewish" story-line, and they get it completely wrong.

I get hammered fairly often.

Again, lots of movies to watch.
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[personal profile] niqaeli 2018-06-05 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
(We're not it. We are still not out of the shadow of the Code. I worry, especially now, that we never will be.)

Oh, god, this is very true. I admit I laugh bitterly when people say the Code is gone. No, it isn't gone at all; we only escaped the formal process of an actual seal. What we've got now is worse in a few ways, at least, and certainly not better across the board, and well. Post-Code Hollywood is, I think, about like post-modernism. It can only exist or be understood in the wake of the thing that it followed. A world in which there is no shadow cast by the Code would be something entirely different altogether.

(And, yes, clearly I really need to watch more pre-Code movies! I have long wanted to watch more of them, but my brain has unfortunately not cooperated a bundle on watching live action the last few years.)

Have we spoken before? If so, I apologize for not recognizing your handle. If not, pleased to meet you!

I don't actually recall how directly we have spoken or not, previously, to be honest! But I'm in [personal profile] yhlee's comments on a regular basis, and I have often found you very interesting and sage over there. :)
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[personal profile] zdenka 2018-06-05 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I was disappointed in La Juive. I was hoping for it to feel more like actual Judaism, and it didn't. (Like, I expect the Judaism in Nabucco to be pasted on yay, and that one wraps around to me finding it slightly hilarious, but I was hoping for better from a Jewish composer.)
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[personal profile] kore 2018-06-05 01:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, even if it's not actually legally that damaging, as people much more in the know than me seem to think, it's terrible as hell for morale. Like most of the fucking stuff this administration does. So much of it is a lot of horrible sound and fury designed to terrify and cow people, and distract us too while even nastier work goes on uninterrupted under the surface. It's so demoralizing.

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