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sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2017-08-31 11:56 pm

But you're just sitting there waiting for Joan Crawford to put on her black cowboy shirt again

I spent last night in Providence with [livejournal.com profile] greygirlbeast and [livejournal.com profile] humglum; returned early this afternoon for a doctor's appointment and for [personal profile] rushthatspeaks' birthday observed, which was celebrated primarily with a chocolate cake frosted with blue roses which [personal profile] gaudior had procured from Lyndell's, watching Rob Epstein and Jeffrey Friedman's The Celluloid Closet (1995), ordering takeout from Mary Chung's, and meeting [personal profile] spatch to spend the remainder of the evening at the speakeasy arcade behind Roxy's Grilled Cheese. I played pinball, skeeball, and Tetris, drank something which was too sweet for my tastes but had a flower and a paper umbrella in it, and have an even longer list of movies with queer content to watch than I started the day with, plus a couple, inevitably, to avoid with tongs. I ate suan la chow show with shrimp. I watched both of my partners play Guitar Hero. I turn out not to be terrible at Tetris. I am extraordinarily tired, but this was a good note for August to go out on. Maybe September (hah) will include sleep.
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[personal profile] rushthatspeaks 2017-09-01 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
I am not going to get over any of the arcade's beverage-serving choices anytime soon-- I mean, mine had an umbrella and what looked like an entire mint plant in a mug shaped like the top half of a shark, and yours had a flower and a paper umbrella in a frickin' giant-size Dixie Cup. Bzuh?

It was a very good birthday observed, and I am glad we could do it.

Love you so.
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[personal profile] thawrecka 2017-09-01 10:01 am (UTC)(link)
What did you think of The Celluloid Closet now that you've seen it?
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2017-09-01 11:37 am (UTC)(link)
Tetris is a surprisingly addictive and compelling game, and it can leave attention-after-images (i.e., everywhere you look you see spaces and things that would/should be fitted just so into them).

We have a photo somewhere of me with the ninja girl as an infant on my lap, at the computer. I look like a diligent grad student, hard at work despite child! But in fact I'm playing either tetris or "mac man," Mac computer's version of Pacman.
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[personal profile] lauradi7dw 2017-09-01 12:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Which are the ones to avoid with tongs? It has been ages since I saw CC and I don't remember muxh.
Edited 2017-09-01 12:42 (UTC)
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[personal profile] alexxkay 2017-09-01 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
A few months ago, I started watching Freebie and the Bean, having read of some connections to one of my favorite comedies, The In-Laws. The first several minutes of FatB consist almost entirely of extreme police brutality on the part of the putative protagonists. I *think* there was intended to be a "humorous edge", but I found it so appalling that I bailed pretty early.

(I did re-watch TIL recently, and found it held up pretty well. A few problematic elements, but Peter Falk and Alan Arkin both were hilarious.)
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[personal profile] alexxkay 2017-09-01 06:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Not to mention the dreaded "Tetris dreams".

Playing games can often affect one's perceptions. At times of my life when I was playing Grand Theft Auto, I couldn't see a firetruck without an urge to steal it. Katamari Damacy made me see everything in terms of how big a ball would be required to roll it up. Most recently, The Witness makes me look for complex line patterns to trace in my environment (a tendency that the game itself acknowledges in a climactic video sequence).
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[personal profile] gwynnega 2017-09-01 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
The Children's Hour is worth seeing; it deals with homophobia but doesn't traffic in it.

It's been a long time since I've seen The Celluloid Closet; I'd forgotten about that montage. Occasionally I'll see a 1960s/70s/80s film for the first time in ages and get smacked upside the head by some virulent homophobic content that had sailed over my head when I was a kid.
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[personal profile] lauradi7dw 2017-09-01 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I vaguely remember "The Detective" cited as an example of how extreme violence was being treated as normal movie fare. (or something like that. This is me trying to remember an editorial from 40 years ago)
In my mind there is some overlap between that one and "Cruising" (1980)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080569/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 "Cruising" prompted a lot of protests when it was released, buy a vocal gay community. I guess my mental association was just the police detective angle.
I haven't seen any of the ones you mentioned.
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[personal profile] thawrecka 2017-09-01 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm glad you got something from it. I first saw it in the 90s on the local multicultural channel, when I was avoiding homework, and it opened up a whole new world for me.

the gun-handling scene between Montgomery Clift and John Ireland in Red River (1948) convinced me that I need to watch that thing stat

I first encountered talk about that scene in the readings for my Westerns class some years ago; many movies have been sold to me as stunningly homoerotic, many of which I think are not so, so at first I dismissed it as critics making homoeroticism out of nothing - and then I saw it. It really is amazingly homoerotic. Also, a really lovely film. Also stars John Wayne and Walter Brennan, directed by Howard Hawks, a genuinely delightful film that I would consider among my all time favourites.
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[personal profile] thawrecka 2017-09-02 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
What I really want now is a kind of sequel looking at queer representation in film since 1995 and I would not mind, either, a similar look at queer representation explicitly by queer filmmakers, since in The Celluloid Closet what they're looking at is the studio system and most queer creators were as much between the lines as their characters. These books and/or documentaries may exist!

That would be awesome. Such things may exist but I have also not stumbled upon them. I have seen discussion of the film Brokeback Mountain in a book about gay literature (but not the short story, for some reason), but mostly in the context of it being made by and effectively for straight people to talk about the perceived tragedy of queer lives (it's been a while since I've read the Cambridge Companion to American Gay and Lesbian Literature but I pretty much agree with its thoughts on Brokeback Mountain). I may have seen a couple of books about New Queer Cinema for sale on Amazon, but I've been on a book buying drought - here's hoping I can find something similar at the library at some point.

I have ordered a copy through the local library and will endeavor to report back when it arrives.

I hope you like it!
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2017-09-03 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
I am chuckling at the notion of wanting to steal firetrucks, and I can well believe that Katamari Damacy would have that effect.
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[personal profile] alexxkay 2017-09-03 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
Firetrucks have a LOT of hit points, and perform excellently as both rams and barricades.