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sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2017-07-03 12:29 am

Our ship danced like a moth in the firelight

I saw Jean Renoir's The River (1951) at the HFA tonight with my mother and [personal profile] nineweaving. I have loved that movie since the first time I saw it in 2011, and I have never written properly about it. Have this highly disparate collection of links instead.

1. The long-persecuted, fiercely endogamous Yazidi religion has changed its traditions to welcome back Yazidi women trafficked by ISIS/Daesh. The current wave of persecution has been recognized by the UN as genocide. If you are interested in supporting survivors or the Yazidi community at large, Yazda looks like the place to start.

2. Eric K. Ward of the Southern Poverty Law Center writes on a subject I have been thinking a lot about lately: "Skin in the Game: How Antisemitism Animates White Nationalism."

3. For reasons both fun and deadly serious, John le Carré recommends learning German: "You can make up crazy adjectives like 'my-recently-by-my-parents-thrown-out-of-the-window PlayStation' . . . Those who teach language, those who cherish its accuracy and meaning and beauty, are the custodians of truth in a dangerous age."

4. Double-checking that I had transcribed its lyrics correctly from the recording I have by Bellowhead, I found a fantastic page about the origins and variants of the nautical folk song "Across the Line."

5. This dialect quiz from the New York Times placed me, by regional English, in New York City, Yonkers, or Jersey City. Back to the drawing board, Henry Higgins. [edit: It correctly located [personal profile] spatch in western Massachusetts and also Boston. "Weirdly prescient." But also Yonkers. We're not sure what's up with Yonkers. "Maybe there's a bunch of expatriates."]

Following the whole adventure with RKO's Girl of the Port (1930) and John Russell's "The Fire-Walker" (1929), I really feel I should read some actual indigenous Pacific writers. Any recommendations?
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[personal profile] choco_frosh 2017-07-03 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Hosey=claim Dibs?
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[personal profile] gwynnega 2017-07-03 04:27 pm (UTC)(link)
The dialect quiz situated me in Fresno, Oakland, and Long Beach. At least it figured out I'm in California?
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[personal profile] movingfinger 2017-07-03 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I always thought dibs was a Britishism, but apparently not. Yes, hosey is to claim something, and one can double- and triple-hosey. I would guess that it's a corruption of choisir.
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[personal profile] nineweaving 2017-07-03 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
DARE thinks [Etym uncert; perh < holds + hypocoristic -ie suff2].

Does "bags I" turn up on this side?

Nine
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[personal profile] gwynnega 2017-07-03 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
The word "firefly" and not knowing the concept of a drive-through liquor store are apparently distinctively Californian. (I have heard of drive-through liquor stores, but we don't have them here, much less have a special name for them.)
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[personal profile] cyphomandra 2017-07-03 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel cheated that I was unable to select "slater" for the woodlouse question (I think it's the Scottish variant that for whatever reason got used here). I am either from Anchorage, New York, or Pembroke Pines.

I read your journal heading yesterday and thought, “Wait, I know Dusky Sound!” – that lyrics origin piece is great,. I’ve actually just seen (but failed to yet write up) Kororāreka: The Ballad of Maggie Flynn, which is a theatre piece about a pākehā/Irish convict who ends up in the whaling town of the title, also referenced in the song (it was known rather notoriously as the Hellhole of the Pacific for some time) .

Pasifika works –my recs are biased towards those who live/work in New Zealand. Samoan - Tusiata Avia’s poetry collection “Wild Dogs Under My Skirt” was also done as a performance piece, and I think some of them are up on Youtube. Oscar Kightley is great – he’s part of the comedy troupe Naked Samoans, and co-wrote/acted in Sione’s Wedding, about four Samoan feckless men who have to shape up in time for a friend’s wedding, and he’s been in various other things (Moana, Hunt for the Wilderpeople), although my favourite piece of his was a play (Eulogy) about the German Samoans interned in NZ during WWII, which amongst other things featured a fabulous sock puppet version of Othello. Albert Wendt (a lot of Samoans have German names/ancestry) is the grandfather of Samoan literature, but I’ve only read a short story collection that was assigned during a class that tended to focus on relentlessly depressing literature, and it wasn’t an exception.

For Fiji – Toa Fraser has a couple of plays and films - No. 2 (film of the play) is about a Fijian matriarch choosing her successor, and I haven’t actually seen it but I loved his play Bare, a two-hander with two people playing 15 characters. Madeleine Sami , who was in the production of Bare I saw, is a Fijian Indian actor/comedian; I love her theatre work. She has a tv series (Super City) where she plays everyone and I haven't seen it, which is less the show and more the fact that I currently have trouble watching most tv.

I can’t give you anyone for Tonga (or the Cook Islands, or Niue) but I am fascinated by their ‘Atenisi Institute, which is Tongan for Athens – this is a <a href="https://overland.org.au/2012/12/tongan-ark/ >review </a> of a film about it. I can come back and do Māori literature/theatre/film – have run out of time and probably comment space!
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[personal profile] movingfinger 2017-07-03 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
"Good news, everyone!"
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[personal profile] movingfinger 2017-07-03 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Interesting! The really alien one to me is "shotgun," which seems very west-of-the-Mississippi.

Actually, that question has two things going on: hoseying/dibs and what the subject calls that seat (I would call it "the front seat" or "ride in front"). Now that I think of it, we did call it "the suicide seat" also, when we were teenagers, because of the high fatality rate supposedly associated with that position in the car at that time.
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[personal profile] owl 2017-07-03 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I too got Boston/Worcester/Providence.

I'm Irish, so...it did its best?
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[personal profile] kore 2017-07-04 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
I get....Anchorage, AK; Aurora, CO; and....Pembroke Pines in southern FL. I've never been to these places.

I broke it? Or something?

(Frontage road, garage sale, water fountain, traffic island, pill bug....)
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[personal profile] kore 2017-07-04 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
New Mexico had some of the first drive-thru liquor stores, but I never knew what to call them other than "horrible ideas." (Highest DWI rate in the nation! Great planning.)
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[personal profile] kore 2017-07-04 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I also do the general "auhnt" (or "auhntie") and "Ant Lydia" thing, but not consciously.
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[personal profile] kore 2017-07-04 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
WTF, I tried again with some slightly different questions ("how do you say been," mountain lion, &c) and got

Aurora, CO (again?); Madison, WI; and YONKERS.
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[personal profile] kore 2017-07-04 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
I think so, yeah -- in NM they're always frontage roads. They're even in addresses -- 1234 Frontage Road, #567, 87505.

I think you can see one off to the right in this pic: http://www.aaroads.com/west/new_mexico025/i-025_nb_exit_282_02.jpg
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[personal profile] movingfinger 2017-07-04 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yonkers is becoming the new Beetle Bomb...

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