sovay: (Rotwang)
sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2012-01-19 12:06 am

The intertitles in our silent picture show

I want to go back in time and steal this man's waistcoat. Or at least ask what he was reading:



(Francis George Packer, an actor I'd never heard of even under his stage name, Nigel De Brulier. He played the prophet Jokanaan in the 1923 avant-garde film of Oscar Wilde's Salomé, however, so I expect to see more of him soon. Discovered while looking for Conrad Veidt.)

[livejournal.com profile] nineweaving worries it would wear me, but I think the wolf hat could take it.

[identity profile] kenjari.livejournal.com 2012-01-19 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
If you know any good seamstresses, you could have one made, although you'd have to guess at the colors. But I suppose there's an upside to that, as you'd be entirely justified in assuming that the colors were coincidentally those you find most attractive and flattering. :)
I had no idea that there was a film of Salome. I only know it from the R. Strauss opera.
gwynnega: (lordpeter mswyrr)

[personal profile] gwynnega 2012-01-19 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
What a wonderful photograph.

I'm pretty sure I saw that version of Salome many years ago, though the version I'm more familiar with is the Ken Russell film (over-the-top but worth seeing).

[identity profile] nineweaving.livejournal.com 2012-01-19 06:17 am (UTC)(link)
Herbert Pocket?

Have you found the wolf hat trailing shreds of brocade? Have you named it yet? I'd be inclined to call it Throgmorton.

Nine

[identity profile] nineweaving.livejournal.com 2012-01-19 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
...no more name than itself...

That's serious Hat.

Nine

[identity profile] teenybuffalo.livejournal.com 2012-01-19 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
Ensemble:

Wolf hat
Leather jacket
Francis George Packer's waistcoat
Fighting Trousers

But what would you wear on your feet? We need to sort this out before the Vanity Fair photoshoot.
gwynnega: (lordpeter mswyrr)

[personal profile] gwynnega 2012-01-19 07:21 am (UTC)(link)
It's garish and flamboyant, like much later Russell--but I love the translation of the play Russell's wife did for the film.

[identity profile] steepholm.livejournal.com 2012-01-19 07:44 am (UTC)(link)
My goodness - who is that naked sprinter over Herbert's right shoulder?

[identity profile] ashlyme.livejournal.com 2012-01-19 10:10 am (UTC)(link)
Fighting trousers a la Professor Elemental?

[identity profile] schreibergasse.livejournal.com 2012-01-19 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
nineweaving worries it would wear me, but I think the wolf hat could take it.

Odearlord, now I'm imagining "Sartorial Smackdown: Wednesdays, 9/8c
This week: Sovay's boots take on de Brulier's Cravat!"

[identity profile] teenybuffalo.livejournal.com 2012-01-19 02:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly.

[identity profile] desperance.livejournal.com 2012-01-19 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Wolf hat versus waistcoat: are you really sure you want to be the cage for that fight?

[identity profile] timesygn.livejournal.com 2012-01-19 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)

He played the prophet Jokanaan in the 1923 avant-garde film of Oscar Wilde's Salomé ...

Like the others, I had no idea such a thing existed. Because Salomé is my favorite play, I shall seek to purchase a copy and add it to my library of silent Chaplin shorts.

My final year teaching, I attempted to stage a version of Salomé in which the role of the Young Syrian was played by a female - gay, as it happened, who had a history with the principal actress. (I had no idea at the time.) But our Method focus, combined with the interpersonal dynamic, made for some breath-taking rehearsals.

The play, like so much else of value I attempted my final year in the classroom, was undermined and eventually derailed by the administration.

[identity profile] nineweaving.livejournal.com 2012-01-19 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I have and I bow to it.

Nine
rosefox: Me in men's evening dress. (crossdressing)

[personal profile] rosefox 2012-01-19 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm wearing a checked waistcoat today (the one barely visible in this userpic, if I've chosen the picture correctly) and it is definitely not wearing me. I'm certain you could carry it off.

[identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com 2012-01-19 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
That is a nice waistcoat. I think you could carry it off, with or without the wolf hat.

I'd love to know what he was reading as well. It's a wonderful image, this, and I thank you for sharing it.

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2012-01-19 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
My mom made my dad some pretty spectacular waistcoats, and it was always fun to see him wear them.

I like the ... embroidered pumpkin? behind him on the left. (I mean, okay, I guess it's a lantern, but it looks like it could be a pumpkin.)

[identity profile] moon-custafer.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know if it was still true at the time the photo was taken, but for a long time colours didn't register on plates with completely accurate tonal values - anything red or green came out a bit darker than in RL, and blue/yellow came out lighter*. I'd guess from the relatively deep shades of gray that the waistcoat in question was some sort of red/green checks.


* This remained a problem in the early days of cinema - anyone with blue eyes looked all creepy. Hence no blonde movie stars until much later.

[identity profile] timesygn.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 01:35 am (UTC)(link)

And whoa! Look ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-poWwCWnl3s

[identity profile] irisbleufic.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
Such striking charisma, too...

[identity profile] irisbleufic.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
It'd be fun to try, however!

[identity profile] timesygn.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 02:47 am (UTC)(link)

Alas, I know but one dance, princess:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=JFyVPxel5_w&feature=endscreen

I shall kiss thy mouth, Jokanaan!

They say that love hath a bitter taste!

[identity profile] teenybuffalo.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
I shall kiss thy mouth, Jokanaan!

"I don't see why she couldn't run off with the head and live happily ever after." --small girl, having just watched Salome for the first time. (and I know it's true, because I heard it from a friend of a friend of mine.)

[identity profile] teenybuffalo.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
I ain't a-finding fault with your good boots. I was just hoping there was some item of footwear that you could use to complete the outfit (theme: things with mythic or lyric resonance). Right now, all I can think of is Brown Boots, from the music-hall song of the same name. And that just won't cut it. Hm. Boots of Spanish Leather?

the high heels I had to buy to play a nun

That's... *wipes away a tear*... wonderful.

[identity profile] ashlyme.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 07:41 am (UTC)(link)
I used to wear a riverboat-gambler-style waistcoat, the same green as that tie.

[identity profile] moon-custafer.livejournal.com 2012-01-20 12:18 pm (UTC)(link)
It could have been light/dark green checks, I guess.


I've seen a still from a really early appearance by Stan Laurel where the director attempted to compensate by having Stan wear extra mascara. It just makes him look like a skinny raccoon.

[identity profile] teenybuffalo.livejournal.com 2012-01-26 05:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Possibly because I'm reverting to atavism and my headhunting Irish ancestors, or because I'm secretly a Templar who worships Baphomet. Or because I'm the fugitive Head Girl of St. Trinian's.