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sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2009-04-19 03:58 am

We're linking tongues and moving on

Most of today does not bear repeating, but in the afternoon my mother and I went to the Museum of Science and looked at the frogs: they were still beautiful. The dart-poison frogs, which look like metallic glazes. The waxy monkey frog, sitting up on its branch with delicate, unsticky fingers and opposable thumbs. Bullfrog tadpoles, fire-bellied toads; even a clawed Xenopus, whose name I learned almost twenty-five years ago from a children's abecedary, As I Was Crossing Boston Common. The Brazilian milk frog is the one that I love. Its skin is like celadon, softly watered with black; it crouches with only its throat flickering and its eyes are wide rims of gold. There are three or four of them near the beginning of the exhibit, the first frogs the visitor sees after the initial materials. I can imagine them in clay and faience. They look like things recovered from the ancient world.

On a channel that unfortunately cut for commercials, I caught the last third of The Magnificent Seven (1960) earlier tonight. I need to rewatch it and Seven Samurai (1954); I saw them both at the same time, probably not later than my first year of high school.

The Pliny moment yesterday was the Great Meadows of Arlington and Lexington, burning. Being wetlands, they should regrow soon. I still think conservation land should not be catching on fire. I imagine someone was smoking, and I wonder if I can invoke contrapasso against them.

There are not enough good stories with shape-changing and frogs.

and round they went, and round, although

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2009-04-19 10:35 am (UTC)(link)
Weird. I wrote a story with poison-dart frogs and shape-changing in it a few weeks ago (alas, not really a good one--more silly than good).

And I know the abecedary you're referring to with Xenopus. I LOVE it. That's also where I learned Trogon and Yaguarundi.

sweet and slow, a circular tow,
round as the moon that leaned to blow
its beams upon Boston Common.
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also...

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2009-04-19 10:37 am (UTC)(link)
clay and faience...

[livejournal.com profile] teenybuffalo makes some pretty amazing things out of sculpey and fimo clay. I bet she'd make awesome poison dart frogs.

[identity profile] steve-vernon.livejournal.com 2009-04-19 12:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I just watched The Magnificent Seven. A great movie. I need to get myself a dvd of Seven Samurai, which I haven't seen since college days.

[identity profile] strange-selkie.livejournal.com 2009-04-19 12:26 pm (UTC)(link)
But not a Pliny moment in the sense that you are not Pliny the ELDER in this case, y? I mean, you are not now in fact a smoke-tinged, hacking zombie, posting in LJ?

You would be proud of me. In keeping with the tradition of horrifying lullabies full of deadly things, I filked "Hush Little Baby" to the contents of Larousse Gastronomique, more or less, to friends' sleepless eight month old. It would have worked, too, if someone hadn't popped a party balloon.
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the Great Meadow burning

[identity profile] awhyzip.livejournal.com 2009-04-19 01:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh sad :-(
I was hoping to go walking there Patriots Day or next weekend

I'm surprised the wetlands would burn.... I biked thru there not long ago, and things did not look dry.

I disagree with you: Sometimes conservation land should burn. Isn't that what they found about prairies and Yellowstone? On the other hand, I thought that is more relevant to the Southwest than New England.

BTW: I talked/bragged about your Vanth [proposed] name to some coworkers Friday when we were swapping stores.

[identity profile] timesygn.livejournal.com 2009-04-19 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I read somewhere that the world's frogs are becoming extinct and this bodes poorly for our global ecosystem.

And speaking of critters ... Our sheep Chemaine just had twins black lambs. I have a photo up on my blog that you might enjoy, given our mythological naming hierarchy for black sheep.

[identity profile] vr-trakowski.livejournal.com 2009-04-19 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
It doesn't quite fit the bill, but have you read Are All the Giants Dead? (http://www.amazon.com/Are-Giants-Dead-Mary-Norton/dp/015201523X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1240152818&sr=8-1) Mary Norton, Brian Froud, funny and melancholy and it always makes me want a hobgoblin.

[identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com 2009-04-19 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Glad the frogs were lovely, at least.

Pity about the cutting for commercials.

I hope the Great Meadows do grow back quickly. I'd wonder if it wasn't smoking, or some stupid person making a campfire and not having any concept how to do it properly. Contrapasso sounds appropriate, yes.

There are not enough good stories with shape-changing and frogs.

There are never enough good stories with anything.

But yes, there should be more with shape-changing and frogs. It actually sounds like a good thing for Ursula Vernon to do at some point, once she's done with Digger, although she does seem to have projects coming out her ears already.

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2009-04-19 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I loved in the book how day gradually subsides into dusk and dark in the illustrations.

And it was so much fun to read out loud.

As for the story, I think it just is what it is--kind of a piece of fluff? But it would be a fun thing to write a different, wilder story about poison dart frogs--they are so beautiful. When I was writing the fluff story, I googled lots of images of them. And I learned a few words in Embera (tribe that hunts with arrows and darts using that venom).

[identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com 2009-04-19 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
If you find yourself in Boston before the twenty-fifth of May, I highly recommend you visit them.

In the event (somewhat unlikely, unfortunately) that I do so find myself, I will do so. Thank you for the recommendation.

I was just thinking prose, but anything by Ursula Vernon I would totally approve.

Ah, yes. I think she actually does do some prose writing, albeit highly (and self-) illustrated--she's got a juvenile novel called Nurk which is apparently about Sorka the shrew's grandson,* and there's a funny story somewhere well back in her deviantart gallery about an elf veterinarian and an orc poet.**

I, also, would totally approve just about anything by her. (And she does draw wonderful frogs.)

*The local Borders doesn't stock it, and I'm unfortunately note flush enough to order novels simply because I'd like to look at them. If my bonnie wee cousin-once-removed Ella were old enough, I'd get it for her as a gift and read it before I sent it, but such is not the case, and I amn't close enough to any of the other cousins-with-children to do so for their offspring.

**It seems to have been dropped after six or eight chapterlets, but it looks like developing into a nicely atypical elf-orc (in the post-Tolkienian sense, rather than the Tolkienian) romance.

[identity profile] movingfinger.livejournal.com 2009-04-19 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, given that the site's behind a school, it's probably a fire started by kids either deliberately or fooling around. I've heard that there's a big problem with that on the North Shore, actually: those damn invasive phragmites burn real well at the dry-stalks stage, fire spreads rapidly through them because of their thick, impenetrably growth habit. Very gratifying for the JD firebug. Cattail marshes aren't so dense and have water channel space, so don't burn so well.

On the other hand, burning off phragmites is about the only way to get the seed heads, and the beds don't support much other life (it's a monoculture and too dense to offer cover for water birds), so I can't be too torqued about that.

Early spring fire in a spot like Great Meadows should do no long-term damage. It'll green up in a couple weeks if you get some rain.

[identity profile] schreibergasse.livejournal.com 2009-04-19 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I also approve of anything by Ursula Vernon.

he's got a juvenile novel called Nurk which is apparently about Sorka the shrew's grandson
You could also get your local library to order it. (Either ILL, or buy to spread the gospel of Vernon). At any rate, that's what I'm planning to do.

there's a funny story somewhere well back in her deviantart gallery about an elf veterinarian and an orc poet.
MUST. READ.

there should be more with shape-changing and frogs.
Or you [sovay] could write it?

Anyway, sorry to hear that the non-ranine portions of yesterday were not worth the price of admission. I hope that they are, indeed, unrepeatable.

[identity profile] steve-vernon.livejournal.com 2009-04-19 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
It is one of my favorite westerns. It is also one of the movies that I choose to watch when I am feeling poorly. I watched it just the other day while I was recovering from my hernia surgery.

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2009-04-19 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
may I request it of you?

One day! My head is totally taken up with one particular story right now...

But maybe a poem? Though--to state the obvious--a poem is not a story, and stories and poems are not interchangeable experiences...
Edited 2009-04-19 20:07 (UTC)

[identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com 2009-04-19 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
There was a great thing on NPR about goats being used to remove phragmites from an area. They'd eat all the vegetation--native and invasive both--but the native vegetation came back, whereas the phragmites couldn't deal with being eaten :D


[identity profile] teenybuffalo.livejournal.com 2009-04-19 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Now I've had to look up "contrapasso", and I like what I found. Hm. That explains so much about some of the more lurid images of medieval Hell.

I seem to recall a word for the holiday of the damned. "Refrigerium". I think. Does that mean that Judas goes to refrigerate himself on an ice floe on his one day off a year?

[identity profile] teenybuffalo.livejournal.com 2009-04-19 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
"The Hounds of the Morrigan" by Pat O'Shea has both shapechanging and frogs, though at different points in the story. The frogs are all comic Irishmen and there are two witches with a "Beware of the Frog" sign in their front yard. It's much, much better than that description makes it sound.

[identity profile] kenjari.livejournal.com 2009-04-19 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I love your entry title. That's my second favorite Robyn Hitchcock album.

[identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com 2009-04-20 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
You could also get your local library to order it. (Either ILL, or buy to spread the gospel of Vernon). At any rate, that's what I'm planning to do.

Hmm, that is a thought. My mother's got connections at the library--I'll ask her about it.

MUST. READ.

Definitely. It can be found by going to http://ursulav.deviantart.com/gallery/ and searching (in the search box under the gallery tab, rather than the one above) for "elf vs. orc".

The first chapter is rated mature*, so you'd have to be logged into deviantart in order to read it. The rest are open.

Or you [sovay] could write it?

I'd defintely read it, an she did.

*Even though there's nothing more explicit in it than the description of Sings-to-Trees' discovery that Celadon Toadstool is female whilst cutting off her shirt in the process of working on her wounded arm--the fact that she has nipple rings is mentioned, but that's about it.

[identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com 2009-04-20 03:20 am (UTC)(link)
I've seen a review of that! Maybe it's in a library.

It certainly should be, to the sound of it.

. . . excuse me while I look that up . . .

Enjoy! I think I said more about it below.

[identity profile] kenjari.livejournal.com 2009-04-20 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
Eye, without a doubt. I think it's his most consistent work. Much as I love Robyn Hitchcock, I often find that his albums have one or two songs that are kind of duds. Not so with Eye.

PS

[identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com 2009-04-20 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
. . . excuse me while I look that up . . .

Have you a deviantart membership? An you don't, and don't want to be bothered with it, let me know and I'll find a way to email you a copy of the one bit that's rated mature and thus lockt.

[identity profile] gaudynight78.livejournal.com 2009-04-20 01:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I seem to recall that the native tribes in New England actually managed the forest quite intensively with selective burning to promote the population of wild game.

I could be completely wrong, though.