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sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2009-01-30 12:28 am

Gedenkstu vi ikh hob dikh gelernt haltn a shpayer in di hent?

Some thoughts on returning from Defiance (2008):

1. What idiot let Liev Schreiber get away without an Oscar nomination?

2. I felt there should be a koan for the Bielski Otriad: if two Jews have a philosophical argument in the middle of a forest, when is the third going to pitch in (and is he going to punch someone)? This is not a complaint. A Holocaust film without hagiography is one that works for me.

3. Now that we've proved that general audiences will watch a film with Jewish partisans, who can we get to adapt A Verse from Babylon, please?

I wish I could play my formerly purchased music from iTunes. "Yisrolik" and "Shtil di nakht" are both locked. [livejournal.com profile] strange_selkie?

[identity profile] nineweaving.livejournal.com 2009-01-30 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
...if two Jews have a philosophical argument in the middle of a forest...

This tickles me.

who can we get to adapt A Verse from Babylon, please?

Seconded.

And "Soldiers Three" is an excellent soundtrack, even if it's not in Yiddish.

Nine

[identity profile] handful-ofdust.livejournal.com 2009-01-30 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
You make me want to see it. I mean, not that I didn't already...and particularly for Liev, who I consider sadly underrated and -used in most cases.

[identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com 2009-01-30 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
I'm glad you liked this movie--I feel much more inclined to see it, now. Saw a couple of negative reviews from folk who seemed vaguely clueful, but I'll take your verdict over theirs, any day.

I'm sorry to hear that iTunes is thwarting you.

[identity profile] ap-aelfwine.livejournal.com 2009-01-30 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
If it had been a novel, I would have stopped at a bookstore afterward and bought it.

That sounds to me like a good argument for it.

There was a reviewer in some newspaper (the Fairfield country free rag, maybe?) who seemed to be thinking that the movie was based on one in particular non-fiction book about the Bielski partisans and that it didn't do the story justice on that grounds.

As I think about it, that paper seems to have a general policy of tearing on things, to show how sophisticated they are, or perhaps how feral and edgy--I'm not sure why I should take anything they say seriously in the first place.

[identity profile] strange-selkie.livejournal.com 2009-01-30 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
You are lucky, re music : N's laptop files, which included MY laptop files from a year ago, are resurrected as of yesterday afternoon.

I would really love someone to adapt my little book. I found new pictures online -- from the Kuvik archive? Which did not exist in the early 2000s -- and I'm semi-excited about their provenance.

I've debated, though, giving the film of my book a modern soundtrack in addition to the songs that get sung in the course of making theatre, because creative people are never living in a way that wants time to stand still.

[identity profile] strange-selkie.livejournal.com 2009-01-30 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, and you not only plugged my book, you quoted Hirsh!

*beams*

Cookie?

[identity profile] xterminal.livejournal.com 2009-02-02 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
3. Now that we've proved that general audiences will watch a film with Jewish partisans, who can we get to adapt A Verse from Babylon, please?

Develop a time machine. It needs Billy Wilder.

[identity profile] xterminal.livejournal.com 2009-02-02 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Leap based on Stalag 17 and my having seen Billy Wilder Speaks a couple of hours previous. Aside, of course, from being one of the greatest directors America has ever seen.

He had got both the sensitivity and the sense of the fantastic to pull it off. And, for some reason, I keep thinking of the almost absurdist carnival atmosphere from Ace in the Hole. (I could be getting my wires jammed here with Mephisto, whose director I can never remember, as well as Herzog's Invincible, which I seem to have liked a heck of a lot more than anyone else did... which, of course, brings us to Herzog. Who is, of course, still kicking.)