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sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2007-07-22 02:04 am

Do I run rare? You've changed some

I am still sorting some of my reactions to Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, which I started last night around two in the morning and finished this afternoon at a quarter to one. (Yes, I slept in between.) I think that for the most part J.K. Rowling managed to draw together most of the wildly free-floating plot strands that had accumulated over the course of the series and bring them to a fitting resting point; where the story ends is as it should. I found it much more of a piece than its predecessor. And if she made decisions that did not so much please me, for either tonal or personal reasons—it was not my story, and her decisions are hers. I may write more about this tomorrow, or I may simply go back to proofreading Cavafy. But given my previously disclosed interest in Snape, I might as well mention him here.


I will confess straight off that J.K. Rowling did with Snape exactly what I had been fearing for the last several books: had him die confirmed on the side of Light, redeemed by his love for Lily Evans. Unless very well-earned, I tend to find character death a device for sidestepping complex relationships. I had no particular future blocked out, except insofar as I had vaguely been hoping to see Snape as Headmaster of Hogwarts in twenty years' time, but mostly I would have liked for him and Harry to have had to deal with one another and their whole weight of oddly complementary, not quite congruent past. They are refractions of one another, in the same way that Harry and Voldemort are darkly mirrored, and in some perverse way Snape has been standing as a father to Harry, his feelings for Lily undiminished by her marriage to his schoolyard nemesis and only confirmed by her murder in which he had an unthinking hand—if Harry is the last remaining trace of the woman he loved, then Snape will do everything in his power to preserve the boy, even if his simple existence is a reminder of how much Snape lost. Harry as himself never becomes quite real for Snape, I think. In his green eyes or his wayward dark hair, Snape is always seeing ghosts. And I know that in life we are not always offered the opportunity to work out such knots, but I also know that it's safer to think kindly of people when they're gone, and who in memory can become "probably the bravest man I ever knew" would in fact still have been the bitter bastard who never quite elbowed his way out of adolescence.

But if this was the route Rowling was going to take, then I have to be impressed that she pulled it off. Primarily because of the nature of Snape and Lily's relationship, I think, which turned out to be nicely complicated indeed. She was not, as might have been surmised from Order of the Phoenix, his unattainable adolescent crush turned unrequited obsession; she's his oldest and in some ways his only friend, whom he needs too hungrily to realize how he's turning himself into something she will never want. "But you call everyone of my birth 'Mudblood,' Severus. Why should I be any different?" The disintegration of their friendship is like the proverbial car crash in slow motion, where there's no question about the outcome and you still can't look away. Nor was Snape's the pure and selfless love that would have flattened him into melodrama in a minute—there's an uncomfortable element from the beginning, a skinny, dirty-haired stray in secondhand clothes watching from behind the bushes as a red-haired girl on a swingset soars higher than the laws of gravity should allow and shows her sister how she can make a picked flower beat like a heart. "You've got loads of magic. I saw that. All the time I was watching you . . ." He practically builds a hero-cult around her in the years after her death, when she comes to represent everything that he might have cared for in his sorry life; and I am not so sure that Dumbledore does not play on that guilt and grief in order to keep Harry Potter safe. Perhaps it's not redemption by love after all. Perhaps it's only the same kaleidoscope bits of dark and light we've been seeing all along. And so it is that despite the aftermath of the wizarding war, the deaths and the epilogue, the scene that I find most poignant of everything in the book is from the childhood of these two characters:

The scene dissolved, and before Harry knew it, re-formed around him. He was now in a small thicket of trees. He could see a sunlit river glittering through their trunks. The shadows cast by the trees made a basin of cool green shade. Two children sat facing each other, cross-legged on the ground. Snape had removed his coat now; his odd smock looked less peculiar in the half light.

". . . and the Ministry can punish you if you do magic outside school, you get letters."

"But I
have done magic outside school!"

"We're all right. We haven't got wands yet. They let you off when you're a kid and you can't help it. But once you're eleven," he nodded importantly, "and they start training you, then you've got to go careful."

There was a little silence. Lily had picked up a fallen twig and twirled it in the air, and Harry knew that she was imagining sparks trailing from it. Then she dropped the twig, leaned in toward the boy, and said, "It
is real, isn't it? It's not a joke? Petunia says you're lying to me. Petunia says there isn't a Hogwarts. It is real, isn't it?"

"It's real for us," said Snape. "Not for her. But we'll get the letter, you and me."

"Really?" whispered Lily.

"Definitely," said Snape, and even with his poorly cut hair and his odd clothes, he struck an oddly impressive figure sprawled in front of her, brimful of confidence in his destiny.

"And will it really come by owl?"

"Normally," said Snape. "But you're Muggle-born, so someone from the school will have to come and explain to your parents."

"Does it make a difference, being Muggle-born?"

Snape hesitated. His black eyes, eager in the greenish gloom, moved over the pale face, the dark red hair.

"No," he said. "It doesn't make any difference."


It's not a lasting idyll. It's not even an alternate history; by this point in the novel, Snape himself is dead, Lily has been dead for seventeen years, and not even the observing presence of Harry can ripple out changes from dead memory. What might have been is an abstraction / Remaining a perpetual possibility / Only in a world of speculation. / What might have been and what has been / Point to one end, which is always present. But in this moment, they are each for the other a way into a different world—for Severus, an escape from his disastrous family; for Lily, a glimpse into the dangers and wonders of the wizarding life—and forever ten years old, daydreaming in the speckled light, neither of them has any idea what's coming. That stays with me. Ave atque vale, magister.

[identity profile] seishonagon.livejournal.com 2007-07-22 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Ave atque vale, magister.

Yes, very much so, and well said on all counts. There were many things with which I was not satisfied in the book, but Severus Snape was actually not one of them, for the simple reason that while he died, as you say, confirmed on the side of Light, he wasn't all sweetness-and-light, which had been my fear. I also liked the fact that while, yes, he was redeemed by his love for Lily, the fact remains that he was still steeped in the Dark Arts until - and probably beyond - the moment he died. They are a part of who he is, and that never changes. Likewise, though there is a touch of heroism, and he is a brave man, he is not Gryffindor-brave, he's Slytherin-brave. And while Harry does refer to him as "the bravest man I ever knew," that's at least in part because Snape was also one of the people Harry knew who was most constantly plagued by fear. There are those who were more clearly heroic - but they were also more fearless. Snape had the most fear to work through before he could accomplish anything.

I do think that you're quite right that Snape and Harry's relationship is never fully resolved - but I think that was deliberate on Rowling's part. There's a war on. People die. Relationships get cut off in the middle. And at that point, there's so much frenzy and chaos, that Harry can't even stop to mourn for Remus Lupin, much less work things through with Snape.

[identity profile] dasheiff.livejournal.com 2007-07-22 07:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I was kind of hoping Harry would die. Also that Voltmort was Harry's father and Dombledore would come back as Dombledore the white, but mainly that Harry would die. Yes he did kind of die, but it's not quite the same. I do like that he ended up with Ginny though.

[identity profile] ex-greythist387.livejournal.com 2007-07-22 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I have decided that the epilogue, which is written like hasty badfic, does not exist.

It has reasons to exist, perhaps chief amongst them an attempt at closure-against-sequels, but it doesn't fulfill any other duties placed implicitly upon it.

[identity profile] cucumberseed.livejournal.com 2007-07-22 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
he is not Gryffindor-brave, he's Slytherin-brave. And while Harry does refer to him as "the bravest man I ever knew," that's at least in part because Snape was also one of the people Harry knew who was most constantly plagued by fear.

Heh. Indeed. That's an important distinction.

[identity profile] alankria.livejournal.com 2007-07-22 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I like Snape even more now, after reading that scene with Lily -- simply because he's always been one of the few characters (the only? I haven't read the books in a long time, and didn't read past 5) who isn't either Good or Bad. He shows that making the choice isn't as simple as being the good guy or being the bad guy, that you can want both and choose both and regret both to an extent, and that at the same time you choose neither because you're stuck between the two -- for things like a friend.

I'm still not going to read 7, but I'm glad nonetheless to read that Snape didn't get his grey wiped away at the end.

[identity profile] fleurdelis28.livejournal.com 2007-07-22 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't read the book yet, so I have no firsthand experience of how Rowling handled the whole thing, but I will say that it's entirely possible to be brave without being good or even likeable. I'm reminded of the woman in To Kill a Mockingbird whom Atticus Finch describes as the bravest person he knew because she insisted on breaking herself of her morphine addiction before she died, at the cost of great pain to herself and despite the fact that she was dying and no one could have faulted her for dying a morphine-soaked, painless death -- while they very well could and did fault her for being a nasty old woman who insulted Atticus and his children in every way she could think of at any chance she got. Her bravery showed an incredible dedication to what she believed to be important, and you can admire someone for having the courage of their convictions regardless of what those convictions happen to be -- but her admirable determination didn't make her any nicer, or excuse her nastiness. Similarly, I wonder (maybe this is explained) what course Snape would have taken if Lily had gone over to Voldemort's side. Was he dedicated to her because she was better than him, or just because he liked her?

[identity profile] seishonagon.livejournal.com 2007-07-22 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I think so too, and I wish there had been more discussion of it - and of the different houses, their strengths and weaknesses, and their philosophical positions.

As I've said elsewhere, the lack of this discussion is my primary problem with the series, and the one I have the hardest time getting past to enjoy the books. I just can't agree that ambition is a bad thing, even if it is one's foremost characteristic. It all depends on what you do with it.

[identity profile] seishonagon.livejournal.com 2007-07-23 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
I'm now rereading from the beginning, and I am seeing that she had really thought him through from the very beginning. There are other things showing up as well, which is interesting to note. I'm respecting the series as a whole more as a result of the reread.

...that said, there are still all of these bits of worldbuilding that could have been so fantastic.

[identity profile] seishonagon.livejournal.com 2007-07-23 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
"a bastard on the side of Light."

Oh so very yes. That's a perfect description of him. And I love that it stays true.

his ideal; his Patronus.

This was so sad, to me. This was the moment I became totally okay with the arc his character showed throughout the series. This was beautiful. And you're right; one wonders what she would have said. And what she would have thought of him, regardless of what she said.

[identity profile] ex-greythist387.livejournal.com 2007-07-23 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed re: Neville and Harry....
Yes, and what they named their kids, just so that JKR could release the "Albus Severus" thing--yet (given the flat squishiness) we've nothing on Teddy Lupin. I like that not all of Harry's agemates are visible, though (i.e., surely not everyone paired off and had children within the specified timeframe).

[identity profile] ex-greythist387.livejournal.com 2007-07-23 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, sorry--I forgot that he's snogging Victoire.

[identity profile] z0mb1e.livejournal.com 2007-07-24 01:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree about Snape. It is how I wanted it to turn out, but she could have taken it so much further. I kind of wish Patricia McKillip had written this last book...

[identity profile] z0mb1e.livejournal.com 2007-07-24 01:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I also expected post-death Harry to be a bit more Frodo.

late to the party

[identity profile] time-shark.livejournal.com 2007-07-29 07:19 am (UTC)(link)
Have finally finished the last book, enjoyed it but with a few reservations; perhaps for me the most annoying part was that Harry basically defeats Voldemort by gaining the upper hand in a duel of expository speeches.

I actually was reasonably satisfied with the Snape resolution. He is to my mind the series' most interesting character in much the same way that Gollum/Smeagol is the standout in Lord of the Rings.

Rowling has shown no tendency to attempt really complicated or daring things with her characters (consider by contrast Thomas Covenant in Donaldson's first trilogy, who rapes the woman who first befriends him in the Land, in part because he still believes the whole thing's a dream, and then has to deal with very realistic and grim consequences stemming from that act through all three books) so I wasn't surprised Rowling chose a method that wrapped things up neatly. Snape still stayed interesting, in that his motives for acting on the side of right were at their center still selfish...

[identity profile] teenybuffalo.livejournal.com 2007-07-29 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Overall, I quite liked it. But Snape got hardly any stagetime--hard for Rowling to arrange that when most of the book is so strictly from Harry's point of view, but I missed him.

I've been wanting Snape to get drunk or otherwise lose control and shout at Harry, "You should have been *my* son, you little bastard!" but it never happened. Well, "The Prince's Tale" was a rush, anyhow. I liked the same moment you do. Almost all the character-building my heart desired, in one huge dose that left me feeling like I'd eaten ten chocolate chip cookies.

[identity profile] time-shark.livejournal.com 2007-07-30 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, see, that too is one of Donaldson's really interesting achievements: so many people hated those books, and yet they were bestsellers. Now, when Tolkien knock-offs are legion, I'm not sure they'd do so well.

I read the first trilogy as a teen and it blew me away; I think that, for me, the world Covenant discovered and the peripheral made up for his sins. The second trilogy I read more dutifully; it had some spectacular moments but on the whole wasn't as satisfying.

(The writing? Who cares about that? ;-p ... Actually, I recall them as well written, though not particularly flashy.)

[identity profile] time-shark.livejournal.com 2007-07-30 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
The peripheral characters, I meant to say.

I dunno, maybe I've gotten old and cynical. Much as I enjoyed the Potter books, I can't say they ever held the same wonder I've felt when reading Prydain, Dark is Rising, Earthsea, A Wind in the Door, et.al. I think the books work more on the level of teenage mystery/thrillers (with fantasy/gaming ground rules) than as epics. That said, on that level, they work extremely well.