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sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2023-10-12 11:40 pm

My hunger is not mild, but I trainеd it not to kill

Tonight [personal profile] rushthatspeaks and I tried to make mămăligă and it failed on a level I have never in a lifetime of grits, cornbread, and hasty puddings experienced: within seconds of thickening, it burned so badly to the bottom of the pot that blackened skins of former porridge were coming up in the stir and then it exploded. Researching after the fact, it looks as though the culprit may have been the electric stove in the sense that since we needed to reduce the heat from a boil to a simmer, we should perhaps just have moved it to a different burner. In the meantime we made a substitute of grits and ate them with a variation on Julia Child's hamburgers—extraordinarily delicious—and an improvised pan sauce. I have since cleaned the stovetop of volcanic activity. We watched the next couple of episodes of One Piece (2023), which I am continuing to enjoy all the more as it is explained to me that the show is successfully compressing hundreds of chapters of manga into an hour at a time of TV, and it occurred to me that Alexander Maniatis, at least with his black hair slicked back and his serious round glasses and his hands weaponed like a cat's claws, could have played Lackadaisy's Mordecai.
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[personal profile] theseatheseatheopensea 2023-10-13 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder if it's anything like polenta, which you have to stir All The Time with a wooden spoon so that it doesn't stick to the bottom of the pot? I hope you can make it successfully eventually!
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[personal profile] nineweaving 2023-10-13 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yikes!

Nine
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[personal profile] theseatheseatheopensea 2023-10-13 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
I do want to try making it again because I like cornmeal-based things, but I may be a lot more paranoid about cooling it down mid-cook.

I'd be too--I cook with gas and would have no idea about how to handle an electric stove, I'd probably use my non-stick pot, just in case! XD I hope it works out, because it sounds delicious!
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[personal profile] theseatheseatheopensea 2023-10-13 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
(I don't want to say that polenta and mămăligă are the same because I am sure wars have started over less, but I believe them to be very similar.)

I thought the same when I looked up mămăligă, so no worries here! ;)
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[personal profile] ethelmay 2023-10-13 07:29 am (UTC)(link)
In theory electric should at least be better for your indoor air quality. But yeah, changing ranges is a pain. We found it a learning curve even going from resistance to induction, despite induction obviously being superior, because all our muscle memories were off.
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[personal profile] lauradi7dw 2023-10-13 09:57 am (UTC)(link)
This recipe *calls* it Romanian polenta, so the perception is there
https://www.chefspencil.com/recipe/traditional-romanian-polenta-mamaliga/
My entire previous knowledge of mamaliga was from song lyrics
https://youtu.be/aeJGN9wUn5o?si=6JNiljZdzIxT_7qr
I had no idea there was corn meal involved. I may try this (says the person who used a pile of paper towels cleaning the counter after trying to make rice pudding in a rice cooker yesterday).
I have been cooking on an electric stove for decades. I am grateful not to have any connection to gas in our house. There have been explosions in Lexington (one years ago, one as recently as last year) due to pressure imbalances or something (technical details of gas transmission escape me). Our electric stove decision is whether to switch to induction tops. I have decided no, for the time being, but my son-in-law, who has some training, says I could learn.
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2023-10-13 11:54 am (UTC)(link)
Volcanoes in the kitchen! I approve! ... But they are hard to eat; glad you had the substitute of grits.
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2023-10-13 11:55 am (UTC)(link)
The one years ago was near where my grandmother lived; she had to be evacuated.
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[personal profile] lauradi7dw 2023-10-13 01:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not a believer in miracles, but the fact that nobody died in that incident seemed close enough to miraculous to me that there is no difference.
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2023-10-13 01:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't know that no one died! That really is miraculous!
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[personal profile] moon_custafer 2023-10-13 01:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Relieved to hear everyone survived the mămăligă criticality accident.
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[personal profile] lauradi7dw 2023-10-13 03:33 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not exactly instant gratification, because it took a long time, but here it is (I don't know how to embed a photo in a comment, but the link should take you there)
https://lauradi7dw.dreamwidth.org/file/101831.jpg
I used the page I linked above and went with option 1. Except it said to stir for 12 minutes, and in order to follow the "press down with a spoon" instruction, I had to keep stirring for almost 45 minutes, because before that it was too soupy for pressing. There was no temperature setting for the long stirring period. I left it on medium because that was plenty high enough to keep it at the lots of little volcano stage. I was sure that there was a bit in "Bored of the rings" that said "Floop, suggested the swamp," but I can't find it quickly.
It's fine. It's very smooth, not grainy. I had some with cheese, some with tofu, some with milk and molasses and pumpkin pie spice (to make it be like "Indian" pudding). I have fridged the rest and will top it with caramelized onions and mushrooms at suppertime, to get as complete an experience as possible. I am not planning to do it again. If I want grits (I often do), I use Quaker quick grits, which requires less than five minutes of stirring. I do not eat instant grits at all. If I want something like bread, start-to-finish scratch corn bread takes less time than this did.
It was an experience. I am glad to know what it's like. I think for the purpose of not making a mess in the kitchen, the critical instruction was to use a 3L pot (I used a 4 quart copper-bottom Revereware saucepan) for the 4 cups of water. Even at very burbly times, there was no danger of spewing out of the pot.
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[personal profile] chanter1944 2023-10-13 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh my gosh! I did not expect exploding porridge! Neither, I imagine, did you! I'm torn between amusement and dismay, leaning toward the former as it sounds like no humans, felines, or stoves were harmed in the kerbooming of this meal.
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[personal profile] ethelmay 2023-10-13 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
The one a couple of miles from me in 2016 didn't kill anyone as far as I know, though some firefighters went to the hospital. It leveled a couple of commercial buildings in the wee hours.
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[personal profile] ethelmay 2023-10-13 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, we like it a lot. And a friend who just went from gas to induction has had way less of a learning curve than we did.
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2023-10-13 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Us too!!
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[personal profile] minoanmiss 2023-10-14 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)

I grew up on gas and I have SO MUCH to say abotu trying to adjust to the crappy electric stove in the apt I shared with WD. my current electric stove is much better but all electric stoves have the issue of changing heat levels far less quickly than gas does. I do miss my fire.

ALSO you reminded me of being nine and catastrophically burning Jamaican cornmeal porridge in a similar manner (that being another stirred cornmeal dish) because I forgot to turn down the heat. I had to 1) throw the pot in the sink 2) take a shower 3) put burn cream on my chest 4) come back and clean the stove and kitchen 5) have a good cry. ahahahahah

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[personal profile] minoanmiss 2023-10-15 10:46 am (UTC)(link)

Yeah, AFAIK electric stoves don't have any provisions for cooling from a certain heat setting except for natural cooling down, which makes them far less responsive than a gas stove. I have miniscule energy issues compared to yours and I still do sometimes feel like it's too much trouble to deal with adjusting my cooking to the electric stove. I hear you.

Ah, Jamaican cornmeal porridge. It is seasoned with sweetened condensed milk and often cooked with a cinnamon stick, and sometimes served with cream crackers. I grew up eating corn products in sweet ways for the most part. The first time I met polenta I felt as if someone had put tomato sauce on cornflakes (obviously I did not say so to my host)

Yeah, rereading my account I feel a little sorry for my tiny past self. But I think I would have said, "if I'm going to get hurt at least it was on my own terms and I learned something."