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sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2018-09-11 09:23 pm

And my empire cries that he has a temper and now he has a headache

It's not that I have nothing to say about 9/11. I just don't know if I can say it better than I did for the tenth anniversary: it was stolen grief. I hoped the country would get better about it. I do not think it did. Heroism and mourning alike were fed into a machine of self-perpetuating symbolism and it grinds coarser and less historically every year. I feel the same way about the Boston Marathon bombing of 2013—it had to become a myth of strength and retribution so fast, there was no time for being in pain, in any kind of loss. Boston Strong. I remember people dazed and shocked and half-fantasizing and glued to the contradictory news. There was no righteous towering wave of holy justice. There was a perversion: to acknowledge the loss was to have your consent taken for the war it excused, which a whole generation now has never lived without. I am still not sure those dead have ever been properly mourned and therefore, as ghosts, ever properly laid. I have begun to think that no ghosts are ever laid in this country. I don't think it knows how to make itself vulnerable enough to hear its dead, much less give them what they need.

So I spent most of my day working and made dinner for myself and the cats in the evening and ran to the library to return a badly overdue DVD. I saw that Keith Collins who was Derek Jarman's muse and helpmate has died at an equally unreasonable age and I am not happy. (Nothing had better happen to Tilda Swinton.) I watched Gabrielle Tesfaye's The Water Will Carry Us Home (2018), a gorgeous six-and-a-half-minute live-action and cut-paper-animated short film of the Middle Passage and the orishas of the deep sea. I played the Kilcid Band's ferociously catchy "The Good Get Gone" about twenty times in a row. I was trapped at my desk by the absolute trust of a sleeping Autolycus who wakes up just enough to make a heart-catching noise between a snuffle and a purr and then rolls over farther against your lap and goes back to sleep. (It is not possible to displace a cat that comfortable. Tough luck. You just live at your desk now.) In other words, I am having an ordinary day, and on some level I feel I should not be, but I do not want to be part of the machine. The night after the manhunt that followed the marathon bombing, I dreamed of Adresteia. I think she's still here, and her father has come to stay.
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[personal profile] chanter1944 2018-09-12 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
This country can seldom make itself vulnerable enough to hear its living, never mind its dead.
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[personal profile] starlady 2018-09-12 07:14 am (UTC)(link)
The dead are still with us, but everyone ignores them. I think of T.S. Eliot, walking through crowds of ghosts on the street, amazed that death had undone so many now that he could see them.
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[personal profile] selidor 2018-09-12 09:33 am (UTC)(link)
I have begun to think that no ghosts are ever laid in this country.

That would rather put a different perspective on the ever-present genre of zombie movies.
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2018-09-12 10:38 am (UTC)(link)
I like your subject line so much I went to Youtube so I could listen to the song--am listening now. Nice. I like it a lot.

There was a perversion: to acknowledge the loss was to have your consent taken for the war it excused, which a whole generation now has never lived without. I am still not sure those dead have ever been properly mourned and therefore, as ghosts, ever properly laid. I have begun to think that no ghosts are ever laid in this country.

I was going to highlight just that first part, because oh man, so true, but then the whole-generation part is also so painfully true, war as a way of life, and then then next thing you say--that really got me thinking.

I think yes, never properly mourned, on one hand ... but I also think some people mourn by raging, and as a nation, that's how the United States rages. This train of thought leads me to wonder if people (and nations) would benefit from being taught to experience sorrow. I know there's teaching that goes the other direction! But how about in this direction?
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2018-09-12 10:49 am (UTC)(link)
The Water Will Carry Us Home is lacerating, as it should be, and beautiful. The water spirit is glorious, and the transfiguration of the murdered pregnant women and their babies beautiful and tender.
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[personal profile] strange_complex 2018-09-12 12:45 pm (UTC)(link)
to acknowledge the loss was to have your consent taken for the war it excused

This is very wise and perceptive. Thank you for articulating it.
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[personal profile] negothick 2018-09-12 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly. And not to acknowledge the loss and the necessity for war, not to take part in the orgy of flag-waving and singing of "God Bless the USA" (featured by NPR as an "American Icon") was to proclaim oneself officially Un-American. Being a pessimist, I was sure that there would be a wave of lynchings of Muslim-Americans, but thank God we were spared that.
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2018-09-12 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed. (And you probably realized this, but I meant "and as a nation, that's how the United States mourns"--but I absolutely agree with you that that's not always a very healthy way to mourn.)
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[personal profile] drwex 2018-09-13 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I am stunned - and particularly aware as this year the date falls between RH and YK - that this is the first year that children born after the towers fell can go off to die in a(nother) stupid useless war my generation failed to prevent.

We marched and we rallied and it did not matter. My older registered for the draft this year. I don't know what prayers to say for this, how to ask G-d for that forgiveness. I see no reason my childrens' generation should forgive me.
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[personal profile] brigdh 2018-09-19 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
it was stolen grief. I hoped the country would get better about it. I do not think it did. Heroism and mourning alike were fed into a machine of self-perpetuating symbolism and it grinds coarser and less historically every year.

This is so perfectly, unfortunately true.