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sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2017-08-27 01:42 pm

They'll play with time, stealing things they find

Two things before I run off to try for Dorothy Arzner's Get Your Man (1927) with live music at the Somerville Theatre—

The University of Manchester has discovered hitherto unknown papers of Alan Turing. None of them illuminate much about his emotional life between 1949 and 1954, but apparently his opinion of America had plummeted since 1936. At Princeton, he had mostly been puzzled: "The Americans have various peculiarities in conversation which catch the ear somehow. Whenever you thank them for anything, they say 'You're welcome'. I rather liked it at first, thinking I was welcome, but now I find it comes back like a ball thrown against a wall, and become positively apprehensive. Another habit they have is to make the sound described by authors as 'Aha'. They use it when they have no suitable reply to a remark, but think that silence could be rude." I admit that like most people I would have enjoyed a more personal angle, but new material on Turing's research and working methods is not chopped liver.

Brain, I appreciate you dreaming about actors as a break from the panoply of global, national, and personal horror that has been on nightly repeat for months on end now, but I really don't think Bernard Hepton has a band.
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[personal profile] lost_spook 2017-08-27 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Brain, I appreciate you dreaming about actors as a break from the panoply of global, national, and personal horror that has been on nightly repeat for months on end now, but I really don't think Bernard Hepton has a band.

LOL. He could do though, you never know with character actors. I wouldn't put anything past them, particularly not Bernard Hepton. You never know what he'll be up to next - hand-holding archbishops, dodgy Resistance organisers... Anyway, I think dreaming about Bernard Hepton is definitely preferable to nightmares.

(I was especially amused to read that, since I saw him only half an hour or so ago, being dragged off by the Communist Resistance to be executed by Ralph Bates for his treacherous crime of getting a bunch of communists killed in the previous season. Since there are 10 episodes to go, I see this ending badly for Ralph Bates somehow, but you never know with Secret Army.)
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[personal profile] lost_spook 2017-08-28 09:49 am (UTC)(link)
I certainly think so! It was not an unpleasant dream, just the kind where you wake and wait a minute.

Hee, and sometimes there's the kind where you stop and think, wait a minute, in the dream and then wake up because you've worked out it's a dream.

Speaking of hand-holding archbishops, I've had another recommendation for Elizabeth R, so I suspect that will happen eventually.

Cool! If you're in it for Bernard Hepton, though, I recommend watching Six Wives and Elizabeth R in order, as you don't get much Bernard Hepton in Elizabeth R, and I don't think he holds anybody's hands, either, plus I suspect it would be an excellent viewing experience that way round, as long as you have the patience for it. (I said I hadn't seen him in anything, but this isn't true, it turns out - I just didn't notice him until I watched Six Wives and now he's everywhere, being excellent, and I can't un-notice him!) I seem to remember you like Keith Michell, too, and it's an interestly wives-centric, rather than Henry-centric one. Elizabeth R has Glenda Jackson, though, so it is the best. (It also has David Collings, being Anthony Babington, because who else?)

ee. I saw him earlier this week in Robin Redbreast (1970), where he was terrific. I'm pretty sure that explains his presence in my head last night

It sounds v intriguing; I might have to try and see it sometime!

(I've just realised that he also played the Inspector in An Inspector Calls for the BBC in 1981; I suspect he would be good in that too.)

How are you finding Secret Army? I gather it's possible to enjoy it out of the shadow of 'Allo 'Allo?

It is! I'm being a bit grudging about it, but that's just because it's fairly straight-forward and plot-centric, if you know what I mean, whereas in old TV WWII dramas of the same era, I love Enemy at the Door which is fundamentally a character piece, and earlier this year watched Manhunt which is a much more up and down thing, but once it gets going it's very psychological and twisted up and angry about war and Fascism and also incredibly slashy, so Secret Army just feels very, well, okay, it's about Belgian Resistance and danger and stuff... and what else? Which is probably unfair of me. But it's a good cast, and they have quite a few episodes by N.J. Crisp, who's usually pretty great whenever they've written for anything I've watched.
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[personal profile] lost_spook 2017-08-29 08:08 am (UTC)(link)
I had Elizabeth R sold to me on the strength of Glenda Jackson and figured everyone else in the cast would be lagniappe (John Woodvine! Margaretta Scott! David Collings, how unsurprised I am that something historically terrible happens to you!), but that's a useful point.

They're both very good, and the shape of ER is dictated by the Six-Wives format. I found it hard not to be curious, once I'd watched Elizabeth R, and I think it would probably be a better experience that way round - but also twice as long, there is that! Glenda Jackson is amazing, but her Privy Council comprised of excellently bickering character actors are also great.

A set of a dozen plays may take me some time to get through, though, and all bets are off on reporting back on it. You will note I still haven't managed a formal review of the second half of Sapphire & Steel despite finishing—and loving—it in June.

There are no deadlines here! I have a set of v flimsy reviews of things I watched in May and June lurking somewhere on my Dreamwidth as a draft. Not that of course I'm not looking forward to more S&S thoughts from you, or that I wouldn't enjoy your thoughts on Elizabeth R.

This is what happens with character actors! Once I started paying attention, both Denholm Elliott and Ralph Richardson retroactively turned out to have been in everything.

It's true, although some of them you genuinely manage to avoid for ages and then suddenly, they're everywhere! *eyes them suspiciously*

but I've just had it demonstrated to me that Hepton could do ambiguously otherworldly with almost nothing to tip it off; I'd watch his Inspector.

A couple of people seem to have it up on YouTube. (I found it when I was trying to see if anyone had the BBC 2015 version up for a friend, and got random Bernard Hepton instead. I see it's 1982; I misremembered the date, but only by one year.)

No, that's a fair criticism: it sounds like it's a solid entry, but you've seen other shows with similar material treat it much more ambitiously. I'm glad you're enjoying it anyway.

Probably, although I'm aware that most other people seem to prefer Secret Army! I'm just awkward. ;-)
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[personal profile] cmcmck 2017-08-27 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pleased that one of my almae matres, UKC, has named its new college after Turing, so he joins the likes of Eliot (my own college) Rutherford, Darwin and Keynes. :o)
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[personal profile] cmcmck 2017-08-28 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Do tell! :o)
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[personal profile] cmcmck 2017-08-29 11:14 am (UTC)(link)
I was an English literature undergrad, hence Eliot. :o)
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[personal profile] moon_custafer 2017-08-27 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Whenever you thank them for anything, they say 'You're welcome'.

Now I'm trying to remember what the polite response to thanks was in mid-century Britain. "Not at all," or "It was nothing, really?" This interests me, because a discussion I've seen come up from time to time on Tumblr suggests there's currently a generational divide in N. America between "You're welcome" and "No problem," which occasionally gets acrimonious.
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[personal profile] owl 2017-08-28 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
I think either "Not at all", or silence.
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[personal profile] gwynnega 2017-08-27 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I really don't think Bernard Hepton has a band.

...Or does he??