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sovay ([personal profile] sovay) wrote2017-06-16 07:52 pm

If all you young men were fish in the water, how many young girls would undress and dive after

Every single aspect of today except for the cats and the Double Awesome from Mei Mei has sucked exhaustingly. I am very tired of seeing doctors who don't take me seriously because I'm not emotional enough and then seeing doctors who don't take me seriously because I'm emotional at all. I thought the pattern had broken lately, but here we are again. I am not looking for a medical discussion or recommendations. I am just upset. Also it is pouring rain and while I remembered an umbrella on leaving the house, I forgot boots. My shoes are drying in the bathroom because it is the only room in this apartment with a radiator.

I can't believe I've remembered for years that Michael Goodliffe was Thomas Andrews in Roy Ward Baker's A Night to Remember (1958), but forgot or never noticed that David McCallum was Harold Bride. To be fair, I had also forgotten completely about Honor Blackman, but historically I feel very fondly toward Harold Bride. McCallum must have been close to his age at the time of filming. [edit: Indeed, that's a very young David McCallum.] Chances are good that no matter what, I would have bounced off James Cameron's Titanic (1997) in exactly the same way ocean liners don't bounce off icebergs, but childhood exposure to the British film can't have helped.

This is a very fine ghost poem that I didn't write: Rachel Hadas, "Mervyn Peake (1911–1968)."

I have been enjoying this compilation very much.
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[personal profile] gwynnega 2017-06-17 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry you've had to deal with doctors' upsetting behavior.
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[personal profile] yhlee 2017-06-17 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
*support support*
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[personal profile] kore 2017-06-17 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
That is one amazing poem. I fucking love Hadas.
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[personal profile] kore 2017-06-17 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
I just checked, and I have Halfway down the Hall, but that's it. Hmm.
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[personal profile] moon_custafer 2017-06-17 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
Hugs, and thanks for the Peake poem link. I remain convinced that his illness was Lewy Body Dementia, though it's frequently ascribed to Parkinson's, and also I once ran across someone who connected it with "an epidemic of sleeping sickness" when Peake was eleven years old -- at which point I did some math and realized they meant the encephalitis lethargica pandemic of the early 'twenties. Peake would have to have been an awfully delayed case, though.

Andrew also just downloaded a Big Finish Audio Dr. Who story from back in 2000: Holy Terror, by Robert Shearman; in which the Sixth Doctor, and Frobisher the shapeshifter who prefers to be a penguin, land in a scenario which starts as a combination of I, Claudius, and Titus Groan, and proceeds down an increasingly dark and claustrophobic rabbit hole...
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[personal profile] moon_custafer 2017-06-17 03:31 am (UTC)(link)
It was quite good, and segues rather subtly from black comedy in the first half to straight-up horror in the second (the whole thing is about two hours long.)

Frobisher was introduced in the comic strip that ran in the Dr. Who magazine, and periodically gets remembered -- he's a shapeshifter who works as a private eye, and after falling in with the Doctor, decides to be a penguin "for personal reasons."
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[personal profile] lost_spook 2017-06-17 08:26 am (UTC)(link)
in which the Sixth Doctor, and Frobisher the shapeshifter who prefers to be a penguin, land in a scenario which starts as a combination of I, Claudius, and Titus Groan, and proceeds down an increasingly dark and claustrophobic rabbit hole...

Whoa. Is it good?


Can't help butting in here. It's excellent and weird and dark, it's a Robert Shearman audio! He wrote Holy Terror, which as moon_custafer says, is a thoroughly twisted up and dark thing with Six and Frobisher. He also wrote Dalek for the Ninth Doctor, but that was essentially a much shortened and simplified version of his Sixth Doctor audio Jubilee. If you're at all interested in Big Finish, they do downloads from their websites and first fifty (or is it 100?) (which includes Holy Terror and Jubilee) are very cheap. As Frobisher is a comics companion and (I think) only in a very few audios, Holy Terror would be accessible without knowing anything other than shape-shifting penguin PI companion. (There's more explanation of Frobisher in The Maltese Penguin.)

If new Who is currently not your thing and you don't mind the audio format, there's a lot of good stuff in Big Finish - I would very much recommend the Six & Evelyn titles from the main range (which include Jubilee) and also the initial Eight and Charley run (which includes The Chimes of Midnight and Scherzo by Rob Shearman - Chimes of Midnight is possibly still the very best BFA and highly S&S-influenced. (Not that the other ranges aren't good, but I latched onto those two particularly & as both Evelyn and Charley are new (& very likeable) companions, they're a good starting place - but as I said, the initial main range titles are pretty cheap, so you can try out any of the Doctors as you please.) I don't know if Rob Shearman has done much outside this - I think maybe he did write some short stories as well? - but I seem to remember hearing that he's not been able to write much since, which is a terrible shame.

(But when it comes to DW, I may not be the best guide for you, as while I too adore Seven - he is the best! - I enjoy Steven Moffat's work a lot. (I imprinted hard on his fantastic Press Gang* as a teen, but I definitely enjoy his approach to Who an awful lot more than RTD's.) But DW is such a huge and variable thing, we're all going to like some of it more than others, and the happy bit is there's always some other part to go off and escape into, no worries, until the current bit re-adjusts to our liking. That is both the curse and the joy of it. (Since I have an allergy to Chris Chibnall's everything I've ever seen, I'm unlikely to enjoy the next era much at all, and there we go, that's DW for you.))

am very tired of seeing doctors who don't take me seriously because I'm not emotional enough and then seeing doctors who don't take me seriously because I'm emotional at all.

*hugs* Doctors need to take a person seriously. It's awful when they don't.

McCallum must have been close to his age at the time of filming. [edit: Indeed, that's a very young David McCallum.]

LOL, but he looks just as frowny as Steel. He did go on about a ship sinking... (Although I'm fairly sure that was the Mary Celeste.)


* which also had David Collings in. There was no escape! And, incidentally, Big Finish is named after a Press Gang episode as well.
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[personal profile] moon_custafer 2017-06-17 01:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Shearman has done at least one short-story collection, Remember Why You Fear Me. It was published by CZP (handful_ofdust's publishers) and launched here a few years back. Shearman reads his own work with a manic verve -- I don't think he wrote anything for the Eleventh Doctor, but he should have.
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[personal profile] lost_spook 2017-06-17 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, that was my vague memory - that he'd done some short stories and then nothing since. Sadly.
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[personal profile] lost_spook 2017-06-19 12:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I just don't think he's as good a showrunner as he is a writer.

I think that's fair; and I think to a certain extent RTD had the exact same problem - that DW (and Sherlock) is event TV and planning 'big' arcs and spectacles as required seems to be strong points for neither of them. SM can seem to at least write a whole show and do arcs (*points to Press Gang) but showrunner is a lot too much.

And in that case, my recs are probably a reasonable guide, although of course, not that anybody's tastes coincide exactly!

(As I said, re. Press Gang, it was a teen thing I adored, so I can't be rational about it, but it's always a rec I'd second provided the person's not a Moffat-hater, because that would just be silly).

I can't stand Cris Chibnall, but he's hardly the worst writer around and Broadchurch was widely praised, and I'm sure he'll at least be more linear, which should please a lot of people. I just don't get on with him at all, unless he's being lighter/fun.

Peter Capaldi is wonderful! SM has done, here and there, some very good contained eps for him, which he didn't really get a chance to do with Eleven (that I can think right now) - perhaps one day you might like to try "Listen" from S8 and "Heaven Sent" from S9 if you should ever get the chance, as they're definitely Moffat at his most contained and different - and obv. have much Mr Capaldi, especially "Heaven Sent" which is virtually a solo performance. (S10 had "Extremis" but that was the start of a rather duff trilogy - as you say, those arcs!)

Well, now you know what he looked like when it went down! (He had impeccable origins.)

LOL!
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[personal profile] lost_spook 2017-06-19 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Aw, well, I was right about Listen! You should now heed all my recs. ;-p (Not really.)

it was a beautiful episode, where just once DW and its fear of monsters is turned inside out - you couldn't do it every week, but it's pretty amazing (and seemed at the time to come along at exactly the right moment). Thanks for sharing your analysis! (I don't always have a lot to say back on that kind of thing (unless I do), but that's only permanent lack of brain and not lack of interest.

Heaven Sent, btw, is quite dark, as it's essentially a metaphor for working through grief, but it's one-off, Steven Moffat metaphor + Rachel Talalay's direction + Peter Capaldi keeping us watching him for 40 minutes otherwise unaided. But worth knowing so you don't watch it at the wrong moment.

Understood. Just so long as he's not grimdark, that being a mode that I do not think works at all for Doctor Who and something I'm tired of seeing as a narrative default these days anyway.

Chris Chibnall has written both fun episodes and very dark ones; it's impossible to say! I fear more darkness and without SM's ultimate fairy-tales-everything-works-out optimism. But then RTD could be ridiculous and fun and he has a much more pessimistic view of things generally, so I suspect no one would go on an all-out dark DW. It is still a mainstream family thing over here, so the BBC would get nervous!

And, aw, turning for Jacobi, only to be robbed! John Simm, I think, was not entirely happy at how he was asked to play the role, so I am looking forward (somewhat tentatively, because obv. Michelle Gomez is the best Master since Roger Delgado) to seeing him have another go. (Although now that water has flowed under the bridge, I do understand that he regenerated into a deliberate mockery of Ten, and Simm did give us that. It was just... well... something! LOL.)

But, hey, the Master always has rubbish plans and frequently a rubbish beard, too, what can you do?

I had heard somewhere that BF were getting Jacobi back - that is cool - I do agree with you that it would have been wonderful to have more of his Master before he had to regenerate. (Although how are they going to work that - is he just going to be Yana, I wonder?) You'll likely hear it before me; I'm years out of date with BF! Audio-listening is something I can only do in small doses these days.
Edited 2017-06-19 17:47 (UTC)
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[personal profile] lost_spook 2017-06-20 08:51 am (UTC)(link)
They had better call that "The Two Masters."

It isn't but it's coming up on Saturday!! *coughs* (Not that I'm an excited fan here or anything, noooo. /o\)

Pass the popcorn?

LOL, yes. Best thing to do!

I have no idea! I suppose he could be some artifact of fractured time, if he was sealed in the Time War with the rest of Gallifrey.

Yes, I'm sure they'll find a way if they want to. DW is a very obliging canon for being flexible in all the ways.

Does it require a different kind of attention than TV?

I think everything requires a slightly different kind of attention. I don't know, but I do find it needs a little more concentration, so I go up and down on how much I can do it. At some points, it's been easier than others. It's just very variable and I have sometimes quite low limits on how much input I can take. It does get better, though.
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[personal profile] thistleingrey 2017-06-17 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
Grr, doctors who don't doctor well. I've had some of that lately, too--commiseration.
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[personal profile] umadoshi 2017-06-17 05:16 am (UTC)(link)
*snarls at your doctor(s)* What the hell is WRONG with so many people in the medical profession?

*hugs and sympathy*
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[personal profile] lilysea 2017-06-17 01:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I am very tired of seeing doctors who don't take me seriously because I'm not emotional enough and then seeing doctors who don't take me seriously because I'm emotional at all. I thought the pattern had broken lately, but here we are again.

Urgh urgh urgh. :(

Sympathies and empathies.

Been there all too often. :(
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[personal profile] asakiyume 2017-06-17 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG, Johnny Flynn's "Rambleaway" is gorgeous. Thank you for the link. Do you have the Josienne Clark/Ben Walker version of "Hares on the Mountain"? I think you must--either you showed it to me or I showed it to me--but it's a lovely version of that song.

ETA: So far I've loved everything I've listened to on this album ... I might have to get it.
Edited 2017-06-18 03:47 (UTC)
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[personal profile] dhampyresa 2017-06-17 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
:( Sorry your doctors are shit. *hugs*
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[personal profile] ashlyme 2017-06-17 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
*hugs for a bad day*

McCallum might have been very young, but my God, he could brood well.

Hadas' poem. Wow. Of course I was going to love that!
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[personal profile] phi 2017-06-18 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm very sorry doctors aren't taking you seriously. It's a pretty chronic problem in American healthcare (for all I know all health care) and it sucks. I have no advice to give, even if you wanted it. Just *hugs* if you want them.